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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
pretty much a 1/3 of the US population is going to get it. probably around 3% are going to die. brutal.
Most folks will get exposed to it. When all is said and done, 1% or so may die and they will mainly be the elderly and immunocompromised. The average age of the person dying in the US is 80 yrs old.
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
Most folks will get exposed to it. When all is said and done, 1% or so may die and they will mainly be the elderly and immunocompromised. The average age of the person dying in the US is 80 yrs old.
That's a lot of people's parents and grandparents....
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
Most folks will get exposed to it. When all is said and done, 1% or so may die and they will mainly be the elderly and immunocompromised. The average age of the person dying in the US is 80 yrs old.
And if you recover your lungs might be badly damaged
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...fying-21672219
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Originally Posted by
ScoobaDawg
Sooba, that is an article from the Mirror. Come on man.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
pretty much a 1/3 of the US population is going to get it. probably around 3% are going to die. brutal.
Based on what? It started in China in January, and nowhere close to 33% of the Chinese have it. In fact, not even close to 1% have it
There are ~ 330 million Americans, so you predict 110 million get it, and 3.3 million Americans die?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Based on what? It started in China in January, and nowhere close to 33% of the Chinese have it. In fact, not even close to 1% have it
There are ~ 330 million Americans, so you predict 110 million get it, and 3.3 million Americans die?
Not saying any of the numbers are correct but I don't believe anything out of China or Russia. Neither are truthful about anything.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Not saying any of the numbers are correct but I don't believe anything out of China or Russia. Neither are truthful about anything.
So you believe what comes out of US media LOL.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Not saying any of the numbers are correct but I don't believe anything out of China or Russia. Neither are truthful about anything.
China also had the military patrolling the streets of Wuhan and surrounding area to keep people locked in their homes for the last 2 months.
Baffles my mind people make comments like "only 17000 cases in Italy and it's like the flu, big whoop", well it's only not 100x that cause people are locked in their homes. And at this point if we don't do the same we are ****ed.
Last edited by dawgs; 03-15-2020 at 12:36 AM.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
That's a lot of people's parents and grandparents....
My grandmother is in and out of hospital, so I'm very concerned for her
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Based on what? It started in China in January, and nowhere close to 33% of the Chinese have it. In fact, not even close to 1% have it
There are ~ 330 million Americans, so you predict 110 million get it, and 3.3 million Americans die?
the chinese are lying - its not contained
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I know this is definitely black helicopters but what if the Chinese created this virus and released it to send the world economy into disarray.
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"There are two main versions of the rumor, and they have one common thread: that the coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, originated in a level 4 (the highest biosafety level) research laboratory in Wuhan.
In one version of the rumor, the virus was engineered in the lab by humans as a bioweapon. In another version, the virus was being studied in the lab (after being isolated from animals) and then ?escaped? or ?leaked? because of poor safety protocol."
URL="https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21156607/how-did-the-coronavirus-get-started-china-wuhan-lab"]https://www.vox.com/2020/3/4/21156607/how-did-the-coronavirus-get-started-china-wuhan-lab[/URL]
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Tom Hanks had tested positive.
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Originally Posted by
Apoplectic
the chinese are lying - its not contained
To be at 1% of the Chinese population, they would have to gave 14,000,000 cases. To be at 33% like hoops predicted for the us, it would be 462,000,000 cases in China. You think they fudging the numbers (90,000 cases) like this?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
To be at 1% of the Chinese population, they would have to gave 14,000,000 cases. To be at 33% like hoops predicted for the us, it would be 462,000,000 cases in China. You think they fudging the numbers (90,000 cases) like this?
It's really not hard ot fudge. 90% of cases will be in people healthy enough that they don't need to go to a Dr. Of those who do go, only test those who have ALL symptoms, or just don't test everyone. Past that, just don't report all the positive results. China is an authoritarian regime, of course they'd do that to keep panic levels down.
Hell, right here in the USA Dr Hellen Chu in Seattle had to violate orders from the CDC to test flu patients for it, without her doing that we literally wouldn't know it's in Washington (now up to 366 confirmed cases there). A guy in NYC got sick after flying so he called the hotline to get tested. They told him he had to have 1) cough to uncontrollable to speak, 2) difficulty breathing, AND a fever of 102+... just to find out where the testing center is, not even be given one or told he would get one. If our own Gov't is doing such a bad job of tracking this you really can't trust China's numbers
PS, Dr Brian Monahan (the head Dr for the Senate and Supreme court) says 70-150M Americans will get it, so Hoops 1/3rd estimate is right in line with what professionals think.
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The Forrest Co case is a Dr. that caught it in Miami. He works at Hattiesburg Clinic. I was there yesterday.
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A lot of people will be infected and get over it. Those in a weakened immunocompromised state are going to be severely infected. I dont think it's going to be the Spanish flu, but we simply dont have the testing to tell what the actual morbility/mortality rate really is.
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
Most folks will get exposed to it. When all is said and done, 1% or so may die and they will mainly be the elderly and immunocompromised. The average age of the person dying in the US is 80 yrs old.
People die, but it doesn?t have to be today. If me being inconvenienced saves my parents and grandparents who are all high risk for this but less so for other things, so be it.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
It's really not hard ot fudge. 90% of cases will be in people healthy enough that they don't need to go to a Dr. Of those who do go, only test those who have ALL symptoms, or just don't test everyone. Past that, just don't report all the positive results. China is an authoritarian regime, of course they'd do that to keep panic levels down.
Hell, right here in the USA Dr Hellen Chu in Seattle had to violate orders from the CDC to test flu patients for it, without her doing that we literally wouldn't know it's in Washington (now up to 366 confirmed cases there). A guy in NYC got sick after flying so he called the hotline to get tested. They told him he had to have 1) cough to uncontrollable to speak, 2) difficulty breathing, AND a fever of 102+... just to find out where the testing center is, not even be given one or told he would get one. If our own Gov't is doing such a bad job of tracking this you really can't trust China's numbers
PS, Dr Brian Monahan (the head Dr for the Senate and Supreme court) says 70-150M Americans will get it, so Hoops 1/3rd estimate is right in line with what professionals think.
70-150 million with a death rate of 3% is 2.1-4.5 million deaths. I'm not buying that at all. If he's predicting 70-150 million, then I say the 3% death rate is grossly exaggerated.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
70-150 million with a death rate of 3% is 2.1-4.5 million deaths. I'm not buying that at all. If he's predicting 70-150 million, then I say the 3% death rate is grossly exaggerated.
I'm sorry that the best available facts don't line up with what you immagine reality to be... seriously 7, you're a stats guy. Saying 'I don't buy" it can get that bad or "ix this part is really that bad then the other part must be not nearly as bad" are basically you stating "I arbitrarily decided it will only be X bad, so whatever formula of # infected x death rate must = X". You're smarter than to use hunches from your own ass in the face of what literal Dr's and nations with or evidence say.
Death rates are probably closer to 1% than 3. And back to CHina- remember they quarantined Wuhan after only 500 confirmed cases, and took a lot more quarantine action elsewhere after I think 2,000 cases were confirmed. We've already had over 1,000 cases confirmed and aren't doing shit, so yeah it's reasonable to think the % of the population that gets it will be higher than China's was (or SK or that matter)
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