The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[dawgday166]

Guys, I apologize. It appears that last August - I put Dantheman on the welfare tit when I gave him some vcash.

See posts #2 and #19 of the thread linked below:
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ighlight=vcash

There is a lot pressure being the Jeff Bezos equivalent on this site, but at the time I didn't think the generosity would lead him towards having so much animosity over what others had, supporting redistribution of wealth, and want to create some sort of UBI.

Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you'll feed for a lifetime. Again, please accept my apologies for giving a fish to someone and cultivating a socialism ideology.

Also in case you're wondering - Jack Lambert is the Warren Buffett of Elitedawgs (aka vcash godfather); w/ Scooba being Steven Mnuchin since they both create dollars out of thin air...

So you're the source of our pain **

He probably bought some weed with it and when that dried up now he's pissed cause you didn't keep "sharing" the wealth so he could buy more weed.

[Commercecomet24]

Guys, I apologize. It appears that last August - I put Dantheman on the welfare tit when I gave him some vcash.

See posts #2 and #19 of the thread linked below:
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ighlight=vcash

There is a lot pressure being the Jeff Bezos equivalent on this site, but at the time I didn't think the generosity would lead him towards having so much animosity over what others had, supporting redistribution of wealth, and want to create some sort of UBI.

Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you'll feed for a lifetime. Again, please accept my apologies for giving a fish to someone and cultivating a socialism ideology.

Also in case you're wondering - Jack Lambert is the Warren Buffett of Elitedawgs (aka vcash godfather); w/ Scooba being Steven Mnuchin since they both create dollars out of thin air...

So it's all your fault? Dang it man! Lol

[dantheman4248]

I guess I was just ahead of the curve with my football predictions because I didn't think the cojomovirus would be that bad. I was wrong on him just like so many of you were wrong here. I bought the hype and had us favorites in 8 of the 12 games. Then based on responses went for 11 wins because of the high volume of 7-8-9-10 wins. Played to be different instead of price is righting a guys passing yards. I see that some are still too thick to understand that. Probably the same group that think Jeopardy gave James H. a fair shake when his run ended.

As for y'all focusing on pot. Glad y'all are so ****ing scared of a plant. Personally i've smoked marijuana single digit times in my life. It's not my cup of tea (neither is cigarettes when feels like a 100X less potent, yet more deadly marijuana). But I don't see any real argument against it and against taxing sales on it. Let them smoke and let that help fund shit. If you aren't happy with your mental state then so be it. Don't operate heavy machinery while on it same as any other drug of that nature. Not a hard concept.

Also lmfao at grabbing one throwaway line at a whole throwaway post mocking archbishop extendedcab.You're incredibly thick if you can't see what I was doing.

Also to make fun of anyone's finances in this economy, go to hell. No that's not a joke. Literally Go. To. Hell. I can't afford to break into the housing market and I've got a "marketable" essential job. I'm helping dig my family out of the hole the healthcare system left after malpractice and the inability to sue due to Katrina destroying the viability of my father's second job and raising prices astronomically to finish building a house, and the housing crash making ultimately selling said unfinished house not able to drag us out of debt and make us bankrupt.

I watched the government fail every step of the way to help protect my family from disaster. I guess we should have been prepared for Katrina to cause a giant spike in contractor prices, the housing market to have an unprecedented crash, and my father's ridiculously rare medical condition to rear its head again, or the doctor to mess up in such a way that it harmed him in a way that was not life threatening in and of itself, but prevented future transplants from being viable and leaving him disabled even after the wound had healed. No lawyer would take the case due to how tough it was to prove and the lack of resources my family had at the time.

So maybe I've just seen the pitfalls of how society treats it's essential workers (a teacher and a healthcare worker) and the ugly reality that capitalism is dog eat dog and too zero sum. My Christian values raised me to care about others and help them. Seems a lot of people don't understand what that actually means.

And for the comment about bezos donating 100 million. Great! Now you tell me who is the more noble man. One with 100 billion who gives out 100 million and now only has 99.9 billion or one with 10 dollars who gives out a penny and only has 9.99 left. Whose donation truly hurt themselves more and was more selfless?

[Homedawg]

I guess I was just ahead of the curve with my football predictions because I didn't think the cojomovirus would be that bad. I was wrong on him just like so many of you were wrong here. I bought the hype and had us favorites in 8 of the 12 games. Then based on responses went for 11 wins because of the high volume of 7-8-9-10 wins. Played to be different instead of price is righting a guys passing yards. I see that some are still too thick to understand that. Probably the same group that think Jeopardy gave James H. a fair shake when his run ended.

As for y'all focusing on pot. Glad y'all are so ****ing scared of a plant. Personally i've smoked marijuana single digit times in my life. It's not my cup of tea (neither is cigarettes when feels like a 100X less potent, yet more deadly marijuana). But I don't see any real argument against it and against taxing sales on it. Let them smoke and let that help fund shit. If you aren't happy with your mental state then so be it. Don't operate heavy machinery while on it same as any other drug of that nature. Not a hard concept.

Also lmfao at grabbing one throwaway line at a whole throwaway post mocking archbishop extendedcab.You're incredibly thick if you can't see what I was doing.

Also to make fun of anyone's finances in this economy, go to hell. No that's not a joke. Literally Go. To. Hell. I can't afford to break into the housing market and I've got a "marketable" essential job. I'm helping dig my family out of the hole the healthcare system left after malpractice and the inability to sue due to Katrina destroying the viability of my father's second job and raising prices astronomically to finish building a house, and the housing crash making ultimately selling said unfinished house not able to drag us out of debt and make us bankrupt.

I watched the government fail every step of the way to help protect my family from disaster. I guess we should have been prepared for Katrina to cause a giant spike in contractor prices, the housing market to have an unprecedented crash, and my father's ridiculously rare medical condition to rear its head again, or the doctor to mess up in such a way that it harmed him in a way that was not life threatening in and of itself, but prevented future transplants from being viable and leaving him disabled even after the wound had healed. No lawyer would take the case due to how tough it was to prove and the lack of resources my family had at the time.

So maybe I've just seen the pitfalls of how society treats it's essential workers (a teacher and a healthcare worker) and the ugly reality that capitalism is dog eat dog and too zero sum. My Christian values raised me to care about others and help them. Seems a lot of people don't understand what that actually means.

And for the comment about bezos donating 100 million. Great! Now you tell me who is the more noble man. One with 100 billion who gives out 100 million and now only has 99.9 billion or one with 10 dollars who gives out a penny and only has 9.99 left. Whose donation truly hurt themselves more and was more selfless?

Who reads this shit anymore... a diatribe of idiocy I'm sure. Just make sure you send your extra check of your tax contribution. The govt won't turn it down. ...

[Jack Lambert]

Who reads this shit anymore... a diatribe of idiocy I'm sure. Just make sure you send your extra check of your tax contribution. The govt won't turn it down. ...

I got into the first sentence and this came to mind and I just stopped reading it.

[Gutter Cobreh]

I guess I was just ahead of the curve with my football predictions because I didn't think the cojomovirus would be that bad. I was wrong on him just like so many of you were wrong here. I bought the hype and had us favorites in 8 of the 12 games. Then based on responses went for 11 wins because of the high volume of 7-8-9-10 wins. Played to be different instead of price is righting a guys passing yards. I see that some are still too thick to understand that. Probably the same group that think Jeopardy gave James H. a fair shake when his run ended.

As for y'all focusing on pot. Glad y'all are so ****ing scared of a plant. Personally i've smoked marijuana single digit times in my life. It's not my cup of tea (neither is cigarettes when feels like a 100X less potent, yet more deadly marijuana). But I don't see any real argument against it and against taxing sales on it. Let them smoke and let that help fund shit. If you aren't happy with your mental state then so be it. Don't operate heavy machinery while on it same as any other drug of that nature. Not a hard concept.

Also lmfao at grabbing one throwaway line at a whole throwaway post mocking archbishop extendedcab.You're incredibly thick if you can't see what I was doing.

Also to make fun of anyone's finances in this economy, go to hell. No that's not a joke. Literally Go. To. Hell. I can't afford to break into the housing market and I've got a "marketable" essential job. I'm helping dig my family out of the hole the healthcare system left after malpractice and the inability to sue due to Katrina destroying the viability of my father's second job and raising prices astronomically to finish building a house, and the housing crash making ultimately selling said unfinished house not able to drag us out of debt and make us bankrupt.

I watched the government fail every step of the way to help protect my family from disaster. I guess we should have been prepared for Katrina to cause a giant spike in contractor prices, the housing market to have an unprecedented crash, and my father's ridiculously rare medical condition to rear its head again, or the doctor to mess up in such a way that it harmed him in a way that was not life threatening in and of itself, but prevented future transplants from being viable and leaving him disabled even after the wound had healed. No lawyer would take the case due to how tough it was to prove and the lack of resources my family had at the time.

Sounds kind of like that nail salon owner that you were ranting about earlier and how she should have saved more or she wouldn't be in the situation she finds herself in. Your words, not mine! I, on the other hand, have empathy and I feel for both your personal and her situations because it sounds like both were somewhat unforeseen

So maybe I've just seen the pitfalls of how society treats it's essential workers (a teacher and a healthcare worker) and the ugly reality that capitalism is dog eat dog and too zero sum. My Christian values raised me to care about others and help them. Seems a lot of people don't understand what that actually means.

And for the comment about bezos donating 100 million. Great! Now you tell me who is the more noble man. One with 100 billion who gives out 100 million and now only has 99.9 billion or one with 10 dollars who gives out a penny and only has 9.99 left. Whose donation truly hurt themselves more and was more selfless?

Your Christian values should have taught you that you're not in a position to judge another person while on this earth, as that is The Lord's responsibility. I was the one that referenced Bezos' donation and it was centered around whether you felt like the government would have helped those looking for food had they taxed him appropriately to have it saved up? I don't care how much money the man has accumulated, but I will tell you that his generosity helped feed people in need. That boulder you're carrying must be a heavy burden to bear. I wish you nothing but good luck moving forward.

nm

[dawgday166]

I thought the same thing about the salon owner. He'll come back and say that was sarcasm tho, we should've known that it was meant that way, and we're all idiots cause we didn't realize it was sarcasm cause we stupid old people ... regardless of what Gen we are in as long as it's prior to his Gen.

That includes Jack too ... Gen X is before his time ****

ETA: Granted ... I have empathy for what they gone thru too but don't know the whole story either. Since he's Christian I'm assuming he's read some of the Bible ... wonder if he checked out the Old Testament Book of Job.

[dantheman4248]

I thought the same thing about the salon owner. He'll come back and say that was sarcasm tho, we should've known that it was meant that way, and we're all idiots cause we didn't realize it was sarcasm cause we stupid old people ... regardless of what Gen we are in as long as it's prior to his Gen.

That includes Jack too ... Gen X is before his time ****

ETA: Granted ... I have empathy for what they gone thru too but don't know the whole story either. Since he's Christian I'm assuming he's read some of the Bible ... wonder if he checked out the Old Testament Book of Job.

It was sarcasm. How both of you didn't get that is on you. You have to be really dense to not understand I was mocking your position of capitalism is good and poor people are poor because it's their fault. Like how you have to be dense to not understand what a copy pasta is and try to pick apart throwaway lines.

It was meant to sound a lot like how "woe is me such a sad story" when something similar is why so many people fall into poverty. Not laziness.

Homedawg and Jack must both feel like that salon owner got her justice. She broke the law. Idc she had a sob story.

If you can't see the parallels and how sickening it is to act that way as a human... just hope you don't get hit with bad luck out of your control.

[dantheman4248]

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...ry-in-america/

35% of households with a child 18 or under in America are currently food insecure.

Some of you will interpret this as we need to "reopen the economy" as your solution. You don't want to face the ugly reality that this is something capitalism has allowed to happen. You don't want to think about what happens if we reopen and bodies pile up even higher because the same experts you have ridiculed along the way could be wrong about the two different strands, could be wrong that you can't recatch it, could be wrong that this won't mutate when exposed to an astronomical amount of hosts. Somehow they are infallible in that area of expertise but completely wrong with their models.

I posit solutions to prevent this to happen in both times of crises and normal times. And i'm the big bad communist. Guess I should go to Russia where they care about kids. Lord knows Christians don't care about them. That was obvious by how much covering up went into the Catholic Priests scandal.

If you don't like who I'm grouping you in with and think that I'm ridiculous for that, maybe (and just hear me out on this one ok) maybe don't ally with them?

[StateDawg44]

Nvm

[Jack Lambert]

That includes Jack too ... Gen X is before his time ****

Shirley you mean someone else. I am 55 years old.*****

[Johnson85]

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...ry-in-america/

35% of households with a child 18 or under in America are currently food insecure.

You're right, but you don'tn realize why. Outside of capitalism, the majority of people are legitimately food insecure, as in it's likely that they will miss meals even with relatively prudent planning. Now, we actually have to make up weird definitions to make things sound worse than they are. We don't talk about people not having enough food to eat, we have to lump those in with people who have a reduced variety or desirability of diet but that never actually have to experience hunger to generate a bigger number.

Some of you will interpret this as we need to "reopen the economy" as your solution. You don't want to face the ugly reality that this is something capitalism has allowed to happen. You don't want to think about what happens if we reopen and bodies pile up even higher because the same experts you have ridiculed along the way could be wrong about the two different strands, could be wrong that you can't recatch it, could be wrong that this won't mutate when exposed to an astronomical amount of hosts. Somehow they are infallible in that area of expertise but completely wrong with their models.

Yes, we could find out there are different, more deadly strains, and we also could find out there is a new pandemic already underway that we just haven't identified yet. But you can't really make policy on possibilities like that. You can try to prepare, but you don't crush your economy because there is the potential for an as yet unidentified calamity lurking around the corner. The way you deal with those potential issues is through things like making sure you have robust systems for the necessities of modern life and hope they are robust enough to survive the potential threats, whether it be pandemic, large solar flare, severe weather or geological activities, etc.

I posit solutions to prevent this to happen in both times of crises and normal times. And i'm the big bad communist. Guess I should go to Russia where they care about kids. Lord knows Christians don't care about them. That was obvious by how much covering up went into the Catholic Priests scandal.

If you don't like who I'm grouping you in with and think that I'm ridiculous for that, maybe (and just hear me out on this one ok) maybe don't ally with them?

You posit ideas, not solutions. Some of them would probably be good. Some of them seem on their face to be unworkable.

[Johnson85]

There's a lot of good in this post. I think what it boils down to is that we have a difference of opinion on whether we should stick with something we know isn't working versus switching to something new that isn't soundproof. There isn't a perfect system. Otherwise someone would utilize it. That is the problem when someone says "let's hear your plan." They put it as "we'll break yours down too." Well no shit. There's problems with it like there is problems with what we have now. But I think it will strive us on the whole to be better. But really, the first part of any problem is...... admitting there's a problem. It's crazy how many people can't even reach that step.

To touch on the gun thing. The second amendment is just that. An amendment. It can be changed. See: Amendments 18 and 21.

Our disagreement is on whether what we have is "working". We have a lot of problems and a lot of them are self inflicted and could be made better by better policy (some of them probably require better culture that a democratic gov't can't do much to influence). But the real difference is you are comparing the real life version of a reasonably free market system with a moderately corrupt government to your fictional, idealized version of a less free market system without a corrupt government, when for the most part, experience tells us that compared to more autocratic governments, more liberal (in the little "l" sense, not the bastardized opposite of literal meaning sense) societies and government tend to either tamp down the corruption or be wealthy enough to handle it better. And they certainly tend to provide better conditions for their people, although there is a lot dependent on culture (hence Singapore managing a level of government control that swedes can't, swede's handling more government control than Venezuela or even the US can, etc).

[starkvegasdawg]

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...ry-in-america/

35% of households with a child 18 or under in America are currently food insecure.

Some of you will interpret this as we need to "reopen the economy" as your solution. You don't want to face the ugly reality that this is something capitalism has allowed to happen. You don't want to think about what happens if we reopen and bodies pile up even higher because the same experts you have ridiculed along the way could be wrong about the two different strands, could be wrong that you can't recatch it, could be wrong that this won't mutate when exposed to an astronomical amount of hosts. Somehow they are infallible in that area of expertise but completely wrong with their models.

I posit solutions to prevent this to happen in both times of crises and normal times. And i'm the big bad communist. Guess I should go to Russia where they care about kids. Lord knows Christians don't care about them. That was obvious by how much covering up went into the Catholic Priests scandal.

If you don't like who I'm grouping you in with and think that I'm ridiculous for that, maybe (and just hear me out on this one ok) maybe don't ally with them?

So it's capitalism's fault? Should we model after NoKo, Venezuela, or another socialist/communist country where most of the country is starving?

[Dawg2003]

Here's what I wonder about. We start school and football, and there's an outbreak in a dorm or on a football team. What then? Do they shut it all down again?

[Jack Lambert]

Here's what I wonder about. We start school and football, and there's an outbreak in a dorm or on a football team. What then? Do they shut it all down again?

I don't think the outbreak is going to go away until we have vaccine or everyone has been immune to it. It is with us and we are going to have to learn to live with it.

[dantheman4248]

So it's capitalism's fault? Should we model after NoKo, Venezuela, or another socialist/communist country where most of the country is starving?

Canada / Sweden / a lot of europe has its head on right about some things. But everyone always jumps to the extreme dictators.

We're slowly headed towards being a replica of current Russia. Putin showed Trump the playbook and he's just asking madden his way through it.

It's amazing to sit there and watch your country crumble before your eyes and not want change. If you're in Gen X, you gotta ask yourself, is 3/4 of the republican presidents in your life time having an economic crisis a coincidence or something more?

This is America. Supposedly the greatest nation in the world. Yet I can't seem to find anything we seem to be the greatest at anymore. But it's blasphemy to even speak that way or suggest change.

[Dawg2003]

I don't think the outbreak is going to go away until we have vaccine or everyone has been immune to it. It is with us and we are going to have to learn to live with it.

I think so too. SARS wasn't as contagious, but this virus figured out a way to make itself a lot sneakier with asymptotic carriers.

[confucius say]

I think so too. SARS wasn't as contagious, but this virus figured out a way to make itself a lot sneakier with asymptotic carriers.

Did the virus figure that out? Or did it have some help from scientists in a Wuhan lab?

[hacker]

Did the virus figure that out? Or did it have some help from scientists in a Wuhan lab?

It's obviously the 5G towers