The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[Liverpooldawg]

Georgia has a 14 day delay in reporting. We will see.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Maybe kemp should be in charge of when to open things up...



This is a graph of 7-day averages in Georgia. That peak is April 22nd, which is 2 days before Georgia reopened among controversy. It appears Kemp is due some apologies considering Georgia has now been open closing in on a month.

https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report

Don?t wanna jinx it. Hope the trend in GA continues.

Georgia has a 14 day delay in reporting. We will see.

Ya'll are slipping! You didn't see the report that GA was fudging the numbers by putting dates in the wrong order so they could show a declining graph to support reopening????

I'm not saying reopening is a bad decision, but you don't want MS government putting data together like GA. Feel free to read the Atlanta Journal article linked below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc...1NVGO/amp.html

[msstate7]

Georgia has a 14 day delay in reporting. We will see.

Not all tests are delayed 14 days. It's been 26 days since Georgia opened. It may explode any day now, but nothing supports that

[dawgday166]

Trump taking hydroxy. Pelosi says she don't think it's a good idea while secretly wishing he keels over dead *

[Commercecomet24]

Not all tests are delayed 14 days. It's been 26 days since Georgia opened. It may explode any day now, but nothing supports that

Yep.

[msstate7]

Ya'll are slipping! You didn't see the report that GA was fudging the numbers by putting dates in the wrong order so they could show a declining graph to support reopening????

I'm not saying reopening is a bad decision, but you don't want MS government putting data together like GA. Feel free to read the Atlanta Journal article linked below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc...1NVGO/amp.html

Use AJC's tracking info then... hospitalization, daily cases, and deaths all showing downward trend.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus...BSVSNQDDAuZxH/

[BrunswickDawg]

Use AJC's tracking info then... hospitalization, daily cases, and deaths all showing downward trend.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus...BSVSNQDDAuZxH/

Down from peak for certain, but they actually look to have plateaued to me. That isn't a bad thing necessarily and jives with the goal of not stressing the medical system.

I'm going to be real interested to see what happens a couple of weeks from this weekend honestly. The tourists have invaded here the past two weeks building toward Memorial Day weekend. The coast has been a relative cool spot compared to Albany, Atlanta, and Athens (we've had 79 cases and 1 death in a population of 85,000 in Glynn County) - but the ATL is our main tourist base. With it opened up and us getting an influx of outsiders, will we see a spike locally? If we don't, I'll feel much better about this getting back to normal sooner rather than later.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Use AJC's tracking info then... hospitalization, daily cases, and deaths all showing downward trend.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus...BSVSNQDDAuZxH/

I'm not saying cases aren't down, as quite honestly I don't really care at this point. What I was saying was that the state government justified reopening when it did (since it was the first one) by using "fabricated" data points. The governor doesn't come out and apologize if the numbers at the time would have backed his decision.

On a separate (but similar note), FL just fired the person responsible for calculating and publishing their numbers. She says it's because she wouldn't manipulate the data; they say it was for insubordination.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mia...242851256.html

The fact remains, this epidemic is very political. I'm more worried about accurate data than anything else. If that is being censored in any way, then we have bigger worries than just the virus.

[BoomBoom]

Use AJC's tracking info then... hospitalization, daily cases, and deaths all showing downward trend.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus...BSVSNQDDAuZxH/

That lines up with this data (taken with a large grain of salt like all polling data). What drives infection is individual behavior, not state policies. Georgia's infection rates didn't start dropping in the data until a month after people started social distancing. No reason to think an increase will show up in the data earlier than that after a plummet in social distancing. Now that those stay at home rates are likely plummeting, infection rates will surely follow in a couple weeks to a month.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...e-of-covid-19/

[Johnson85]

This is a pretty interesting read on how Florida did a good job managing coronavirus and avoided the more disastrous policies pursued by places like New York, where they forced nursing homes to take back residents with Wuhan. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...d-19-strategy/

It's also another data point on how there are real, negative consequences to having a shitty media with major outlets dominated by partisanship. Had we had a media interested in things other than partisan narratives, it might have occurred to them to ask why Florida was taking a different approach, rather than just jumping to the orange man bad narrative. They might would have spread information that would have helped other states avoid the disastrous policies that Cuomo put in place. I recognize that kind of critical thinking is beyond the capabilities of most journalists, but there are exceptions but those exceptions do no good when they can't get any oxygen b/c it's all sucked up by the rest.

[msstate7]

This is a pretty interesting read on how Florida did a good job managing coronavirus and avoided the more disastrous policies pursued by places like New York, where they forced nursing homes to take back residents with Wuhan. https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...d-19-strategy/

It's also another data point on how there are real, negative consequences to having a shitty media with major outlets dominated by partisanship. Had we had a media interested in things other than partisan narratives, it might have occurred to them to ask why Florida was taking a different approach, rather than just jumping to the orange man bad narrative. They might would have spread information that would have helped other states avoid the disastrous policies that Cuomo put in place. I recognize that kind of critical thinking is beyond the capabilities of most journalists, but there are exceptions but those exceptions do no good when they can't get any oxygen b/c it's all sucked up by the rest.

Nevertheless, Cuomo has been praised throughout

[Jack Lambert]

Nevertheless, Cuomo has been praised throughout

He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.

[Johnson85]

He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.

Nobody is going to get anywhere suing him. He's going to be immune. And supposedly New York put in immunity for nursing homes in one of their state stimulus bills. So they knew pretty early own that they 17ed up enough that they wanted to foreclose suits that would result in nursing homes pointing out their 17up.

The best families can hope for as far as holding him accountable is that his reputation will be trashed and his political career brought to an end. I'd say that's pretty unlikely to happen though.

[Jack Lambert]

Nobody is going to get anywhere suing him. He's going to be immune. And supposedly New York put in immunity for nursing homes in one of their state stimulus bills. So they knew pretty early own that they 17ed up enough that they wanted to foreclose suits that would result in nursing homes pointing out their 17up.

The best families can hope for as far as holding him accountable is that his reputation will be trashed and his political career brought to an end. I'd say that's pretty unlikely to happen though.

He can be sued.

[Dawg2003]

He will probably be sued over the nurshing home deal.

I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.

The US Army built two 1000 bed hospitals and sent a ship with 900 hospital beds. Please don't try to defend a guy who probably cause 1000's of deaths.

[Dawg2003]

The US Army built two 1000 bed hospitals and sent a ship with 900 hospital beds. Please don't try to defend a guy who probably cause 1000's of deaths.

Nursing homes are medical facilities that quarantine their own patients and go on lockdown when there is a flu outbreak. The purpose of a hospital is not to quarantine patients. It's a waste of staff and resources to keep a patient in a hospital that doesn't meet criteria for hospitalization. Do you really think hospitals around here were keeping patients just to quarantine them? What do you think other hospitals were doing with nursing home patients?

Is there some other circumstance here? Did some nursing homes in NY say they were unable to quarantine?

[Johnson85]

I don't understand the Cuomo thing. Nursing homes should be able to quarantine their own patients. You can't just have people taking up a hospital bed that don't meet the criteria for hospitalization.

How many nursing homes have you been too? I haven't been to many, but out of the half dozen I've been to, there was one very high end one, that was really a senior living facility with a small nursing home (I'm guessing they might not even take people who weren't transitioning from their assisted living facility), I don't think they'd have the capabilities of quarantining residents, whether they should be able to or not.

It doesn't take hindsight that sending COVID positive people to nursing homes was likely to lead to breakouts. That's why at least a couple of government officials removed a parent from a nursing home even as they made the call to force nursing homes to take positive patients.

[Dawg2003]

How many nursing homes have you been too? I haven't been to many, but out of the half dozen I've been to, there was one very high end one, that was really a senior living facility with a small nursing home (I'm guessing they might not even take people who weren't transitioning from their assisted living facility), I don't think they'd have the capabilities of quarantining residents, whether they should be able to or not.

It doesn't take hindsight that sending COVID positive people to nursing homes was likely to lead to breakouts. That's why at least a couple of government officials removed a parent from a nursing home even as they made the call to force nursing homes to take positive patients.

If the nursing homes are saying they don't have the capability to quarantine their own patients, that's one thing. They should be able to do that though. They do it during flu outbreaks in nursing homes. I work in healthcare, so I've been to several nursing homes. We had a situation where a nursing home was refusing to take patients back, and the hospital told them needed to come pick the patients up. They came and got them. I'm not sure if they had 2 negative COVID tests yet. I'm just wondering if the Cuomo situation was similar.

[DownwardDawg]

Nevertheless, Cuomo has been praised throughout

It’s crazy. He has done a horrible job. I’m not sure anyone could have done any worse than him.