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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    IHME updated again, this time a little more realistic

    They're gonna be right in the end no matter what, aren't they? 2 million to 60k to 134k

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    That's really pitiful that the damn governor didn't know this Friday. Seems like someone must have hid that very relevant fact to stay locked down a little longer
    MDH is to blame. And they do indeed suck! Nobody is using them with testing. They can't even get simple numbers correct. And it's a shame, because Dobbs is a good guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    MDH is to blame. And they do indeed suck! Nobody is using them with testing. They can't even get simple numbers correct. And it's a shame, because Dobbs is a good guy.
    Yeah Dr Dobbs is an excellent physician and good man. MDH has struggled with this since the get go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They're gonna be right in the end no matter what, aren't they? 2 million to 60k to 134k
    Show me where IHME projected 2 million.

    Y'all sure did love this model when it unrealistically dropped to 60k. Hmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    Show me where IHME projected 2 million.

    Y'all sure did love this model when it unrealistically dropped to 60k. Hmm
    Damn, sorry... it was a lot more than 60k, but dropped. I liked it bc it was hopeful. Sorry, I didn't want this to be so tragic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Damn, sorry... it was a lot more than 60k, but dropped. I liked it bc it was hopeful. Sorry, I didn't want this to be so tragic.
    C'mon, 7. Obviously everyone wants to be hopeful. That's a flawed argument here; it's about being realistic, and most importantly, being prepared for realistic projections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Damn, sorry. I liked it bc it was hopeful. Sorry, I didn't want this to be so tragic.
    Fair enough, I understand wanting to have hope.

    But I want to be realistic because a lot of people still aren't taking it seriously, which leads to more dead people in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    IHME updated again, this time a little more realistic

    I saw a pretty good explainer on this model the other day. It talks about how the model was developed. One of the big issues that I know you've been pointing out was that they were just fitting the data to a Gaussian curve which is why it kept unrealistically dropping to zero. As opposed to what more sophisticated models were doing modeling population spread more realistically but with much higher uncertainty.

    Worth a read.

    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...-ihme-pandemic

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    Parks and restaurants opening to half capacity in MS..... have fun with that.

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    Also just wanted to add, this model assumes our social distancing continues at the same rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dparker View Post
    One of the big issues that I know you've been pointing out was that they were just fitting the data to a Gaussian curve which is why it kept unrealistically dropping to zero.
    Yeah. And it looks like they've addressed that issue in the latest update, which is a big reason why the numbers are drastically higher now.

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    Do y'all think MS will have 782 covid deaths or more? I say that number bc that is how many flu deaths we had in 2017 (couldn't find 2018 or 2019 stats). And yes, I know covid is more contagious than the flu, I'm just saying from total death numbers, will we lose more people to covid than the flu.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ississippi.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    Also just wanted to add, this model assumes our social distancing continues at the same rate.
    Social distancing slows deaths. Doesn't stop them. I've seen no evidence that says social distancing is a way to stop it. Tell me how I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Do y'all think MS will have 782 covid deaths or more? I say that number bc that is how many flu deaths we had in 2017 (couldn't find 2018 or 2019 stats). And yes, I know covid is more contagious than the flu, I'm just saying from total death numbers, will we lose more people to covid than the flu.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ississippi.htm
    Yeah. We will before it's over. Now in what time frame I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Do y'all think MS will have 782 covid deaths or more? I say that number bc that is how many flu deaths we had in 2017 (couldn't find 2018 or 2019 stats). And yes, I know covid is more contagious than the flu, I'm just saying from total death numbers, will we lose more people to covid than the flu.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ississippi.htm
    For the whole year, 2020, I say yeah. Seems there would be no doubt though considering covid19 is considered much more deadly and there's no vaccine like with the flu

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    For the whole year, 2020, I say yeah. Seems there would be no doubt though considering covid19 is considered much more deadly and there's no vaccine like with the flu
    Is this a positive or negative post. Gotta stay negative dude ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Social distancing slows deaths. Doesn't stop them. I've seen no evidence that says social distancing is a way to stop it. Tell me how I'm wrong.
    Yeah it elongates the curve, doesn't stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Yeah it elongates the curve, doesn't stop it.
    That's what I thought... yet let's hang on to a disaster to make it longer. Suicide rate for 20 and beyond going to be through the roof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Do y'all think MS will have 782 covid deaths or more? I say that number bc that is how many flu deaths we had in 2017 (couldn't find 2018 or 2019 stats). And yes, I know covid is more contagious than the flu, I'm just saying from total death numbers, will we lose more people to covid than the flu.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...ississippi.htm
    It will be way more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    It will be way more than that.
    For the year i Agree it will be more. How much who knows. 40% of all MS deaths are LTC facilities. While tragic, some of those would have died anyway. Sad but true.

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