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05-04-2020, 07:55 AM
#3021
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No talk about the supposed reduction in COVID 19 deaths by the CDC? Admittedly I haven't looked at it, but see it's being talked about a lot. Only 37,000 deaths? Surely someone screwed that up???
Explain please. Are you saying the number is maybe being reduced?
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05-04-2020, 08:12 AM
#3022
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
The hospitals I deal with had their highest number of COVID patients last week. They've also stopped using the "requirements" of fever etc. to allow testing. Patients are tested and have results same day in some cases.
Results are back in less than an hour at 1 hospital in Hattiesburg. I’m still skeptical on all these damn tests though.
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05-04-2020, 09:18 AM
#3023
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Explain please. Are you saying the number is maybe being reduced?
It's like I was saying a week ago and got blasted on here. The number of COVID 19 deaths are inflated because they are coding anyone that dies as covid in some states. Under the CARES Act hospital get a high percentage from Medicaid for covid patient and covid deaths. This is legit however it has added to the death numbers nationwide and created fear. Like I said before explain how death are down in heart attacks stroke and other diseases.
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05-04-2020, 09:28 AM
#3024
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Explain please. Are you saying the number is maybe being reduced?
It may be that the cdc numbers just lag behind the Johns hopKins numbers. I'm not sure.
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05-04-2020, 09:47 AM
#3025
Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
It's like I was saying a week ago and got blasted on here. The number of COVID 19 deaths are inflated because they are coding anyone that dies as covid in some states. Under the CARES Act hospital get a high percentage from Medicaid for covid patient and covid deaths. This is legit however it has added to the death numbers nationwide and created fear. Like I said before explain how death are down in heart attacks stroke and other diseases.
Hospitals in general are not doing that. I'm not saying in NY, but in MS we've not been doing it.
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05-04-2020, 09:51 AM
#3026
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Explain please. Are you saying the number is maybe being reduced?
No idea. I just saw an article and a couple social media things. It's probably nothing but they CDC chart shows like 37,000 deaths through May 1st, not the 67,000 we've been seeing in the media. Again, I just caught a glance. Figured some of the conspiracy guys were all over it.
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05-04-2020, 10:41 AM
#3027
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No idea. I just saw an article and a couple social media things. It's probably nothing but they CDC chart shows like 37,000 deaths through May 1st, not the 67,000 we've been seeing in the media. Again, I just caught a glance. Figured some of the conspiracy guys were all over it.
The CDC's number is a "Provisional Death Count." Here's the link to the CDC page with those stats and here's how the CDC defines "provisional" mortality statistics and how it explains for the difference between the "provisional" numbers and those reported elsewhere:
The provisional counts for coronavirus disease (COVID-19) deaths are based on a current flow of mortality data in the National Vital Statistics System. National provisional counts include deaths occurring within the 50 states and the District of Columbia that have been received and coded as of the date specified. It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS.
COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1?2 weeks.
The CDC's "provisional" death count for the United States as of May 1 was 37,308.
Here's a link to Johns Hopkins' page about COVID 19 mortality rates in the USA and abroad. Statistics for total deaths and mortality rates (as measured by the percentage of confirmed cases that end in death) for the USA and many other countries, complete with scatter plots and graphs, are included.
Johns Hopkins' death count for the United States as of May 3 was 67,682.
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05-04-2020, 11:23 AM
#3028
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
No idea. I just saw an article and a couple social media things. It's probably nothing but they CDC chart shows like 37,000 deaths through May 1st, not the 67,000 we've been seeing in the media. Again, I just caught a glance. Figured some of the conspiracy guys were all over it.
The CDC lags way behind. THEY have to confirm a positive before they count it.
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05-04-2020, 11:24 AM
#3029
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Hospitals in general are not doing that. I'm not saying in NY, but in MS we've not been doing it.
I don't know either on MS. However that was BS Friday stating we had 20 deaths when 11 where back counted. The numbers like that are what's adds fuel to the overeating crowds
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05-04-2020, 11:53 AM
#3030
Originally Posted by
msstate7
On the 397 new cases today, doesn't there seem to be one day a week where there a good bit more cases than the others? Do we happen to get outside testing numbers once a week or something?
Yep, outside numbers were reported in a lump.
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05-04-2020, 12:01 PM
#3031
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Yep, outside numbers were reported in a lump.
Well Tate and his people need to know, bc he was on Fox News yesterday saying we saw a spike in cases the day before at 397 and deaths at 20. In actuality, the 397 included the weekly lump outside numbers and 11 of the 20 deaths were from late March-early April.
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05-04-2020, 12:13 PM
#3032
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Well Tate and his people need to know, bc he was on Fox News yesterday saying we saw a spike in cases the day before at 397 and deaths at 20. In actuality, the 397 included the weekly lump outside numbers and 11 of the 20 deaths were from late March-early April.
Wow. I say it was a lump (outside testing) bc I just heard that on radio, but that could be wrong.
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05-04-2020, 12:37 PM
#3033
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wow. I say it was a lump (outside testing) bc I just heard that on radio, but that could be wrong.
I know the deaths were from late March to mid April. I'm not sure the outside lump numbers are reported weekly though, that's just what my understanding is.
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05-04-2020, 12:56 PM
#3034
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Well Tate and his people need to know, bc he was on Fox News yesterday saying we saw a spike in cases the day before at 397 and deaths at 20. In actuality, the 397 included the weekly lump outside numbers and 11 of the 20 deaths were from late March-early April.
Tot came out with a statement today that they had a large number of out of state tests come in at once.
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05-04-2020, 01:04 PM
#3035
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Tot came out with a statement today that they had a large number of out of state tests come in at once.
That's really pitiful that the damn governor didn't know this Friday. Seems like someone must have hid that very relevant fact to stay locked down a little longer
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05-04-2020, 01:19 PM
#3036
Originally Posted by
msstate7
That's really pitiful that the damn governor didn't know this Friday. Seems like someone must have hid that very relevant fact to stay locked down a little longer
Well UMMC and luann Woodward are our championing it today, saying we've not hit our peak as evidenced by the weekend's numbers.
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05-04-2020, 02:41 PM
#3037
Originally Posted by
msstate7
That's really pitiful that the damn governor didn't know this Friday. Seems like someone must have hid that very relevant fact to stay locked down a little longer
Ugh, it doesn't matter if they came in a lump or not, that's still a lot of newly discovered cases.
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05-04-2020, 03:38 PM
#3038
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Ugh, it doesn't matter if they came in a lump or not, that's still a lot of newly discovered cases.
It is but if they are from late March to mid-April then they need to be adjusted to those time periods and not reported as something that occurred in the past 2-3 days. That is manipulative reporting of facts.
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05-04-2020, 03:40 PM
#3039
Originally Posted by
Dawgology
It is but if they are from late March to mid-April then they need to be adjusted to those time periods and not reported as something that occurred in the past 2-3 days. That is manipulative reporting of facts.
They were recent. Just tests that went to out of state labs. Today wasn't a great day either.
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05-04-2020, 04:15 PM
#3040
IHME updated again, this time a little more realistic
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