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04-19-2020, 10:45 PM
#2321
Last edited by dantheman4248; 04-19-2020 at 10:52 PM.
Reason: this tangent is not worth discussing. too much whataboutism
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04-20-2020, 08:41 AM
#2322
Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
So what you are saying is he lives in California.
Priceless!!
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04-20-2020, 09:17 AM
#2323
Originally Posted by
dantheman4248
Agree to disagree. No guarantees for sure but it would not have hurt to have Trump pulling in the right direction earlier. That is the main point and that's where my criticism comes from. He could have done better. Which brings me to an overarching theme that people love to do. So Here's the rapid fire response:
Whataboutism
Whataboutism
How come no trump supporters hold Trump responsible for appointing him?
Glad he only surrounds himself with the best people.
Whataboutism.
We're here with Trump. Why are we worried about what they would do. That's how you get a giant douche vs. a turd sandwich. We should all want Trump to be the best president Trump can be. If his redeeming quality is he's not Hillary then we as a society have failed.
Coronavirus would have mutated to spread via email.
You don't understand what whataboutism is. If whataboutism includes pointing out alternatives, then it's worthless as a concept. It is not whataboutism to point out that lots of people with access to the same information came to the same conclusion. It is a circumstantial defense against a claim that a person used poor judgment or logic or was a knowing bad actor.
Pointing out at that Obama handled the swine flu poorly is whataboutism (although sort of a weak form of it; if you are judging a president's performance, it is normal to compare to how other presidents handled similar situations). Pointing out that the Obama administration didn't restock the N95 stockpile isn't whataboutism; it's relevant to how prepared we were. Pointing out that Obama lied about getting to keep your plan would be what aboutism. Pointing out that Pelosi is holed up in her mansion with $13 per pint ice cream is whataboutism. Pointing out that Biden is maybe suffering from dementia is not really whataboutism if you are talking about in the context of the 2020 election. IT's relevant whether he could have done better.
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04-20-2020, 09:22 AM
#2324
Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Thank God he won!!! I can?t imagine where we?d be right now with the alternative.
Have you even *tried* imagining it?
There's someone in my head but its not me.
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04-20-2020, 09:45 AM
#2325
Originally Posted by
Joebob
Have you even *tried* imagining it?
Ever imagined what it would be like to cut your foot off with a chainsaw?
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04-20-2020, 09:53 AM
#2326
Originally Posted by
MadDawg
Ever imagined what it would be like to cut your foot off with a chainsaw?
LOL ... Nice!
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04-20-2020, 09:57 AM
#2327
Would it have been better if Dems were in control? Check out this tweet (collage of Dem leaders on corona)...
https://twitter.com/steph93065/statu...634804736?s=21
Lifted from sps (drebin)
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04-20-2020, 10:00 AM
#2328
Originally Posted by
MadDawg
Ever imagined what it would be like to cut your foot off with a chainsaw?
Rep Given!
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04-20-2020, 10:27 AM
#2329
Originally Posted by
msstate7
This. You can always find something to rebutt what was posted in these video clips. Why? Because Democrats have been talking out of both sides of their mouths since this began to cover their asses. They are no better or worse than Republicans or our President. Every...single...person..in politics is leveraging this virus for political and personal gain. Period.
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04-20-2020, 10:28 AM
#2330
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Could you not do this exact thing with republicans? Hell, you could do it with just Trump and I'm sure somebody has. What's the point of posting this aside from more divisiveness?
Didn't take long to find this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NezEbDx4B9A
Last edited by hacker; 04-20-2020 at 10:32 AM.
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04-20-2020, 10:34 AM
#2331
Originally Posted by
hacker
Could you not do this exact thing with republicans? Hell, you could do it with just Trump and I'm sure somebody has. What's the point of posting this aside from more divisiveness?
Didn't take long to find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NezEbDx4B9A
So everyone missed it? Only trump gets blame though
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04-20-2020, 10:40 AM
#2332
Originally Posted by
msstate7
So everyone missed it? Only trump gets blame though
Trump gets the blame because he has done nothing.
One President, faced with a horrible choice, said " The Buck stops here"....
Making the tough decision is the ****ing job....
Trump said "I take no responsibility"
He should have been removed from office right then.
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04-20-2020, 10:41 AM
#2333
Originally Posted by
hacker
Could you not do this exact thing with republicans? Hell, you could do it with just Trump and I'm sure somebody has. What's the point of posting this aside from more divisiveness?
Didn't take long to find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NezEbDx4B9A
I think that's the whole point of the post...
You have a large section of the media ONLY showing the clips that you posted and holding up the other side of this as the "good guys" while never showing those other clips. On the other side, your channels like Fox News show the clips of democrat leaders doing the same thing and they are villified as a biased news outlet. This is pure manipulation and there is no way that the media (in general) is not complicit. This happens to be an ethical violation.
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04-20-2020, 10:41 AM
#2334
Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
Trump gets the blame because he has done nothing.
One President, faced with a horrible choice, said " The Buck stops here"....
Making the tough decision is the ****ing job....
Trump said "I take no responsibility"
He should have been removed from office right then.
Explain how he has done nothing. I'm interested in this take.
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04-20-2020, 10:43 AM
#2335
Originally Posted by
msstate7
So everyone missed it? Only trump gets blame though
He's the damn president. You blamed Moorhead when he was in charge of our football program, didn't you? Or did you look for GAs to put it on?
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04-20-2020, 10:45 AM
#2336
Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
Try this one
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/n...us-deaths.html
Also, From same publication on Friday
"New York City increased its death count by more than 3,700 on Tuesday, after officials said they were now including people who had never tested positive for the virus but were presumed to have died of it."
I posted these from a notorious liberal outlet so let's just see what happens over the next few weeks
I posted the link to the NYDH, with the historical deaths, vs what has been seen since covid.
All NYC is doing is what Italy and Spain did. the overall death rates are dramatically increased since the virus started. Occam's Razor says that's due to the virus.
But, since we still cannot test everyone, they are not going to waste a test on a dead person.
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04-20-2020, 10:51 AM
#2337
Originally Posted by
hacker
He's the damn president. You blamed Moorhead when he was in charge of our football program, didn't you? Or did you look for GAs to put it on?
Fair enough, but congress, majors, and governors are not GAs. Governors and mayors esp have power, and they should shoulder blame.
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04-20-2020, 10:52 AM
#2338
Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
Trump gets the blame because he has done nothing.
One President, faced with a horrible choice, said " The Buck stops here"....
Making the tough decision is the ****ing job....
Trump said "I take no responsibility"
He should have been removed from office right then.
Posting this again
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04-20-2020, 10:53 AM
#2339
Originally Posted by
hacker
Posting this again
[tweet2]398887965302091776[/tweet2]
So if we come through this with less than the 100-240k fauci (expert) predicted, trump did a good job, right?
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04-20-2020, 10:55 AM
#2340
Originally Posted by
hacker
He's the damn president. You blamed Moorhead when he was in charge of our football program, didn't you? Or did you look for GAs to put it on?
Moorhead did not have to work with congress or the supreme court and work within the confines of the constitution. Moorhead had an easier job!
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