The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[Dawg2003]

I'm only saying this stuff bc the dude went into depth about Trump's ideology.

Trump's ideology is "whatever keeps me in power"

Trump basically gloms onto whatever he feels is popular. I mean, it's a good strategy, and it got him elected. But he could care less about any ideology and is far from conservative. He rightly understood that conservatism is not popular in this country, which helped him get elected. He throws the socially conservative Christians a bone now and then but probably laughs behind their backs.

[hacker]

So is Hillary's, Obama's, etc. They far left in primary and fictitiously move to center for the general election. What's new about that.

I agree, politicians are bad people by nature.

Why is it every time I say something critical about Trump everyone rushes to defend him by bringing up some other politicians?

I have not once in this entire thread said a good thing about a single politician, democrat or otherwise.

I am strictly criticizing Trump. I'm not saying Obama and Hillary are better when I do that. It is not a dichotomy.

Trump is the president. He downplayed the coronavirus for weeks. He is ultimately the person who is responsible. He shouldn't get a free pass just because he's on your team.

If we had a dem president and he had the same response Trump has had, I would be saying this exact same stuff about him.

Honestly, before the virus, I didn't even pay much attention to politics because it's all bullshit. I have no skin in the game.

A lot of you get so offended when anything remotely negative is said about him. Why should he be above criticism? If you think he is, I believe they touch on this in the Ten Commandments.

None of this is directed at you specifically 166. Just the board in general.

[dantheman4248]

I agree, politicians are bad people by nature.

Why is it every time I say something critical about Trump everyone rushes to defend him by bringing up some other politicians?

I have not once in this entire thread said a good thing about a single politician, democrat or otherwise.

I am strictly criticizing Trump. I'm not saying Obama and Hillary are better when I do that. It is not a dichotomy.

Trump is the president. He downplayed the coronavirus for weeks. He is ultimately the person who is responsible. He shouldn't get a free pass just because he's on your team.

If we had a dem president and he had the same response Trump has had, I would be saying this exact same stuff about him.

Honestly, before the virus, I didn't even pay much attention to politics because it's all bullshit. I have no skin in the game.

A lot of you get so offended when anything remotely negative is said about him. Why should he be above criticism? If you think he is, I believe they touch on this in the Ten Commandments.

None of this is directed at you specifically 166. Just the board in general.

The book of Leviticus is more important in this country than the 10 commandments. No idols (Trump, Money) before me. Love thy neighbor. Meh. **** that. If you have sex with another man or have sex with your sister then you should be stoned. (Even though Isaac is supposed to be the ancestor who we can all be traced backed to and Abraham and Sarai were siblings.)

The truth is you don't become conservative because you are imparted with this grand intelligence as you get older. You become conservative because you become hardened by the cruel reality of life and learn to only care about you and your own. Anything that threatens you and your own, you meet with animosity. It's wiser to give up fighting and just enjoy the years you have left because **** it, doesn't affect you anyhow. That's what wisdom you get by being older. Is it smarter? Sure. Self-preservation is smarter. Is it full of heart? nope. Is it an exemplary way to conduct yourself as a Christian? Nope. Is it smart to say otherwise? Currently yes. So they do. Bunch of ****ing Pharisees.

Society would stone Jesus as the Anti-christ if he came today. All in the name of the fear of communism/socialism.

[dantheman4248]

Our first case was January 21st.

And I don't expect him to just snap his fingers and things quickly happen... you keep taking it to two extremes. Almost like their is a spectrum here he could have had of acceptable response. (I know talking about spectrums instead of black and white can be a tough subject for some people, but it'll be alright I promise.) Him getting the ball rolling on things he waited to get the ball rolling in delayed our initial response and has compounded this issue. Again no guarantees, but him giving that much of a gap of inaction really really hurt. I don't think that he could have snapped his fingers and this would have been stopped, but he could have done a much better job of trying to.

[dawgday166]

Our first case was January 21st.

And I don't expect him to just snap his fingers and things quickly happen... you keep taking it to two extremes. Almost like their is a spectrum here he could have had of acceptable response. (I know talking about spectrums instead of black and white can be a tough subject for some people, but it'll be alright I promise.) Him getting the ball rolling on things he waited to get the ball rolling in delayed our initial response and has compounded this issue. Again no guarantees, but him giving that much of a gap of inaction really really hurt. I don't think that he could have snapped his fingers and this would have been stopped, but he could have done a much better job of trying to.

No ... YOU keep taking it to extremes. Could he have done some things better ... Sure. But as I've stated before ... A LOT of smart folks were giving him their opinion and he had to wade thru all that to make any decision. And some of those smart people were wrong too. And Trump has erred also. You expected perfection when it was impossible to even come close to that.

[dantheman4248]

No ... YOU keep taking it to extremes. Could he have done some things better ... Sure. But as I've stated before ... A LOT of smart folks were giving him their opinion and he had to wade thru all that to make any decision. And some of those smart people were wrong too. And Trump has erred also. You expected perfection when it was impossible to even come close to that.

No. I expected better. Trump was supposed to bring in only the best around him. You asked me what I thought he could have done better. I answered. Then it's I'm expecting perfection. No, I expect better. Not a hard concept. The dude didn't do enough to quell this. Not near enough, not quick enough. And he's undoing what was working.

[defiantdog]

Fixed it, but I can admit that. Too many people deify trump to agree to it.

Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

[dantheman4248]

Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

This is where I have the disconnect.

You're afraid of them not having a job... why?

List out some reasons why.

And then ask yourself... can't the government subsidize these things right now? Instead of injecting money to big business... couldn't they cut out the middle trickle down man and just bailout on the personal level? We can throw 1.5 trillion into big business on a whim, but not give it to the people?

Can y'all at least follow the logic there? Idc if you agree with it, but damn at least be able to follow it.

[Homedawg]

This is where I have the disconnect.

You're afraid of them not having a job... why?

List out some reasons why.

And then ask yourself... can't the government subsidize these things right now? Instead of injecting money to big business... couldn't they cut out the middle trickle down man and just bailout on the personal level? We can throw 1.5 trillion into big business on a whim, but not give it to the people?

Can y'all at least follow the logic there? Idc if you agree with it, but damn at least be able to follow it.

If you throw money at the person instead of the business, the person has no job to come back to Bc the business is gone. And wo that there is no money for the "government" to support them. The government gets its money from businesses one way or the other. Wo them, there is no business tax and therefore no personal income tax. Is that hard to understand?? Oh yeah I guess the "government" will just pay for it and fix it forever?? Damn your ignorance shows no end.
And last time I checked the stimulus only gave 350 billion to the small business yet gave people checks in their pockets. Well.... some people. Hope you spend yours well....

[dantheman4248]

If you throw money at the person instead of the business, the person has no job to come back to Bc the business is gone. And wo that there is no money for the "government" to support them. The government gets its money from businesses one way or the other. Wo them, there is no business tax and therefore no personal income tax. Is that hard to understand?? Oh yeah I guess the "government" will just pay for it and fix it forever?? Damn your ignorance shows no end.

The business should have saved up for a rainy day. Sounds a lot like socialism and handouts if the government has to subsidize the business.

If the businesses are run where they can't take a week of hiccup then they clearly are doing a poor job at running the business.

No really the problem with that is your comment lends to the fact that somewhere wealth is being created in this cycle. 1. if wealth can just be created, then why aren't they doing that instead of begging for a socialistic bailout. 2. You're saying that the government will get the money back out of the business instead of the people? Lower income people spend way more % of their wealth than high income. That money will get directly injected into the economy. The more hands it goes through and the more at the top, the more chances for it to stop and not be reinjected.

Without the CONSUMER there is no business and no income tax. Just look at oil to show you the true mark of this. Businesses will exist and rise up as long as there is demand.

[Homedawg]

The business should have saved up for a rainy day. Sounds a lot like socialism and handouts if the government has to subsidize the business.

If the businesses are run where they can't take a week of hiccup then they clearly are doing a poor job at running the business.

No really the problem with that is your comment lends to the fact that somewhere wealth is being created in this cycle. 1. if
wealth can just be created, then why aren't they doing that instead of begging for a socialistic bailout. 2. You're saying that the government will get the money back out of the business instead of the people? Lower income people spend way more % of their wealth than high income. That money will get directly injected into the economy. The more hands it goes through and the more at the top, the more chances for it to stop and not be reinjected.

Without the CONSUMER there is no business and no income tax. Just look at oil to show you the true mark of this. Businesses will exist and rise up as long as there is demand.

The businesses should have saved up for a rainy day? Hahah. Clearly clueless. And have a either have a govt job OR no job at all.
A week of hiccup hmm I'm pretty sure we are past a week. I've been reading your shit for weeks...
The lower percentage as you call it will spend it and will be fine. Some have more now than the ever had. Yet, our economy is about to be in the tank go figure....
Lastly, the businesses do come from consumers. But if there are no businesses, consumers can't do crap. But you can't see the forest for the trees

[Dawg2003]

Definitely not a Trump fan, but I'm afraid of the alternative. I'm afraid to reopen the economy, but I'm also afraid that my friends and family will be without a job if we don't. No matter what happens..... people are going to get pissed off and lives will be ruined.

Agree. I have a lot of mixed feelings about everything.

[Cooterpoot]

Either y'all will make it or your lungs will melt. Good luck to you all!

[starkvegasdawg]

This is the most political nonpolitical thread I've ever seen. But hell, I'll throw in my two cents.

For the person that was comparing abortion and the fealty penalty...that is the most 17ed up argument I've ever seen. With the death penalty you have someone paying the price for committing one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. With abortion, you have an innocent baby being killed for no more reason than the woman decided this just wasn't a convenient time to be pregnant in 99% of the cases.

[Matt3467]

This is an amazingly well put together video on Trump! I doubt some of the people here will watch all 25 minutes but it really shows just how consistent Trump has been.

Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNhzS4xkss

Btw I don't endorse everything the content creator believes. The video happens to be very good.

[TUSK]

Some of you savages amaze me... wait... no, I'm not amazed...

carry on....

[Commercecomet24]

Some of you savages amaze me... wait... no, I'm not amazed...

carry on....

Right on!

[msstate7]

So what's everyone's opinion of trump? Jeez

[Jack Lambert]

So the Fat Boy in N. Korea is sick from the virus. It will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't make it.

[BeardoMSU]

So the Fat Boy in N. Korea is sick from the virus. It will be interesting to see what happens if he doesn't make it.

Lots of conflicting reports out there, which isn't surprising considering its the DPRK. That would provide some small amount of justice. Who would even replace him?