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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    Scott County up to 100 cases very quickly. Must be going through those chicken plants.

    I think they now have the highest per capita infection rate by county.

    Edit: Nope, Wilkinson does. Scott may be second though.
    That’s probably my biggest fear right now, that this virus will start spreading in the food processing plants and everyone will either get sick or get scared. That’s why it’s so critical that we not open up the economy prematurely, but the businesses need to do their part too in protecting their workers, especially in the food industry.
    There's someone in my head but its not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebob View Post
    That’s probably my biggest fear right now, that this virus will start spreading in the food processing plants and everyone will either get sick or get scared. That’s why it’s so critical that we not open up the economy prematurely, but the businesses need to do their part too in protecting their workers, especially in the food industry.

    Joebob,

    I agree but how long will it be until the SIP, social distancing, etc. start to affect our ability to either product or distribute goods (food in this case)? I think that is the concern - at least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    Nobody is scared of socialism or communism. The issue is those government models do not agree with the US Constitution. The US recognizes that our freedoms are GOD given and the constitution guarantees that the US government will NOT infringe on them. Socialism and communism does and will infringe on our GOD given freedoms. We the people do NOT want that. We are not the ones trying to destroy our freedoms,, you are with these proven failed models of human government. The problem is not US, it is you but you fail to see that.

    If socialism and communism are so great, then move to a country with that government model and se how you like it (you won't do that though). I guarantee you will not. I work with enough people in those environments to tell you that much.

    Now you have again gotten WAY OFF the intent of this thread. Keep your eye on the ball will you? You are a distraction!!
    Very Well Said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebob View Post
    That’s probably my biggest fear right now, that this virus will start spreading in the food processing plants and everyone will either get sick or get scared. That’s why it’s so critical that we not open up the economy prematurely, but the businesses need to do their part too in protecting their workers, especially in the food industry.
    It's not a matter of "if" but "when". Because it WILL happen. The issue I see is our governor caving to pressure and reopening our economy and canceling the shelter-in-place on Apr. 20th. If that happens expect cases and deaths to skyrocket in early May. We haven't even peaked yet and we are 4 days from the end of the shelter in place. It will be an unmitigated disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    It's not a matter of "if" but "when". Because it WILL happen. The issue I see is our governor caving to pressure and reopening our economy and canceling the shelter-in-place on Apr. 20th. If that happens expect cases and deaths to skyrocket in early May. We haven't even peaked yet and we are 4 days from the end of the shelter in place. It will be an unmitigated disaster.
    I'm gonna take a guess and say that the governor keeps us under the shelter in place order until May 1. Just going by what he said on Tuesday about school closings. He mentioned that Pres. Trump said that we should be down until May 1 and opening up the schools May 1 wouldn't make sense because there would only be 2 weeks left, so I figure he's leaning toward a May 1 date to open things back up. Just my opinion though and we all know what opinions are worth right now, ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    Joebob,

    I agree but how long will it be until the SIP, social distancing, etc. start to affect our ability to either product or distribute goods (food in this case)? I think that is the concern - at least for me.
    The food supply chain is obviously considered essential and SIP has no effect on it. However, if the virus goes through some of these plants and they shut down, that's a big cause for concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    The food supply chain is obviously considered essential and SIP has no effect on it. However, if the virus goes through some of these plants and they shut down, that's a big cause for concern.
    Yup. It's amazing how much food goes through some of those plants and how thin our food supply chain really is. We really don't have that many days of food inventory stored up in teh grand scheme of things, especially when you think about what might be lost due to logistics problems.

    I mean, if we ever got really desperate, I guess we could take the roughly 50% of US corn that we burn in gas tanks and eat it instead, but I assume we'd have to have like 10% of the population die before the politics would let us do that, b/c the ethanol producers and corn farms know that if you ever let a policy so 17ing insane and destructive like that lapse, even in an emergency, it might be hard to get people to agree to go back to doing something so bat shit crazy when the emergency is over.

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    So apparently some hospitals have been inflating death numbers because if the patient dies for any cause they mark it as COVID and they get Medicaid $$$. In other words someone has heart attack they code it as covid. And they don't even test the person. This is why NY has a higher death rate. It makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    One of the dumbest things ever posted here. I see it at work every single day.
    Trickle-down does not work over time. An ever increasing percentage gets stagnant and considering the disproportion of slices of the pie at the top, more gets stagnant at the top as the trickle eventually gets smaller.

    I'm sure trickle-down worked in your day. It doesn't anymore. It failed. We responded to the previous recession by going all in on it. We've come out the other side with people 20-40 unable to purchase homes and have quickly ended up in another huge recession. The answer is not to double down. It's idiotic to think otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Extendedcab View Post
    Nobody is scared of socialism or communism. The issue is those government models do not agree with the US Constitution. The US recognizes that our freedoms are GOD given and the constitution guarantees that the US government will NOT infringe on them. Socialism and communism does and will infringe on our GOD given freedoms. We the people do NOT want that. We are not the ones trying to destroy our freedoms,, you are with these proven failed models of human government. The problem is not US, it is you but you fail to see that.

    If socialism and communism are so great, then move to a country with that government model and se how you like it (you won't do that though). I guarantee you will not. I work with enough people in those environments to tell you that much.

    Now you have again gotten WAY OFF the intent of this thread. Keep your eye on the ball will you? You are a distraction!!
    I don't want to be in a country run by a dictator. I want to be in a country that takes care of the people. And I like crawfish too much. You've assigned in your head that I must agree with all the tenets of socialism and communism and paint everything as black and white. Its fruitless to discuss with you because you don't understand gray.

    All I've suggested is that we redistribute our wealth via heavy taxes on the elite rich (I'm talking the 1 mil / yr + income, not the end of the street family owned house where Mr. Jones brings in 150,000 for his white hat role at the shipyard.), universal basic income, and an abolishment of the minimum wage. I believe in freedoms but I also believe that we should have the minimum of being an american to be higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    There was a time before greed completely took over that it was plausible. Been awhile.
    When you aren't trolling coot, you are one of the few that can reach across the aisle and actually fairly look at things to give a thought-out reasoned response. You must spread some reputation before giving to Cooterpoot again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Statements vs. actions. You are allowed to say pretty much whatever you want to say so...yeah...it was constitutional (1st Amendment). But if he TRIED to become a dictator then that would be a constitutional violation and things would get....complicated.
    He's trying to. Look at the CARES and how difficult it is for transparency and proper oversight into the distribution of trillions of dollars.

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    Good day comrade!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Statements vs. actions. You are allowed to say pretty much whatever you want to say so...yeah...it was constitutional (1st Amendment). But if he TRIED to become a dictator then that would be a constitutional violation and things would get....complicated.
    Holy shit.

    This is deraged Trump Syndrome

    If ANY prior president had said that, he would have been removed from office... That day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    So apparently some hospitals have been inflating death numbers because if the patient dies for any cause they mark it as COVID and they get Medicaid $$$. In other words someone has heart attack they code it as covid. And they don't even test the person. This is why NY has a higher death rate. It makes no sense.
    What is your source for this?

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    So when does everyone go back to work? Hospitals are clearly faking the numbers. Ew cases and deaths. I believe the cases are a lot higher than reported (simply because they aren't testing everyone with symptoms) and it seems they are reported all death as Covid related (probably for monetary reasons).

    So when do people go back to work and put this fear behind them? Yes, I was told I have a mild case but I'm still feeling the effects of the virus on day 18. I couldn't work right now because I have to take a nap just from checking the mail. So do we just go to work in hopes that this virus will affect the majority and die off? Or do we hunker down for another month or two while the economy tanks? Potentially save lives vs save the economy.....

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    $55 million dollars. POOF.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fema...5-masks-2020-4


    And y'all wonder why I'm clamoring for oversight.

    For people bad at math that's worth 2.2 Kennedy Centers that you bitched about.

    $55 million to a company that went bankrupt last year, has no employees and has provided 0 masks.

    "The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is paying Panthera $5.50 per mask, which is decidedly more than what the government pays companies with an established background in producing medical supplies such as 3M (the company charges about 63 cents per mask)."

    I mean this is simply amazing how ridiculous this is.
    Last edited by dantheman4248; 04-16-2020 at 02:26 PM.

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    The death stats are absolutely not inflated.

    The truth of the matter is that at least twice as many people have died in NYC in the past month of ALL CAUSES than any other month in the past 20 years. That includes September 2001. Thousands more have died this month than in Sept 2001.

    If you think they are inflated, just explain why there were 10000 more total deaths in NYC this month than any other month in 20 years. I'll hang up and listen.

    What killed 10000 more people in NYC this month if it wasn't covid? Was it the 5G towers?
    Last edited by hacker; 04-16-2020 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    So apparently some hospitals have been inflating death numbers because if the patient dies for any cause they mark it as COVID and they get Medicaid $$$. In other words someone has heart attack they code it as covid. And they don't even test the person. This is why NY has a higher death rate. It makes no sense.
    What is your source on that? Most information tends to state that we are most likely under-reporting deaths, not over reporting them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/u...ndercount.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuac.../#5e55c5e282d7
    Last edited by deadheaddawg; 04-16-2020 at 02:30 PM.

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    Hospitals inflating the number of COVID19 deaths to get more Medicaid money? This type of statement is Shawn Hannity level derangement. Good God stop posting crap like this.
    ETA: I?ll play the devil?s advocate here for a minute. Ok, suppose for a moment this is true. How many deaths have been blamed on COVID for this bounty? Answer: the number would be statistically irrelevant. Plenty of people are dying from COVID without having to artificially inflate the numbers.
    Last edited by Dolphus Raymond; 04-16-2020 at 02:44 PM.

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    If everybody wore a mask and went back to normal life, how well would that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    $55 million dollars. POOF.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/fema...5-masks-2020-4


    And y'all wonder why I'm clamoring for oversight.

    For people bad at math that's worth 2.2 Kennedy Centers that you bitched about.

    $55 million to a company that went bankrupt last year, has no employees and has provided 0 masks.

    "The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is paying Panthera $5.50 per mask, which is decidedly more than what the government pays companies with an established background in producing medical supplies such as 3M (the company charges about 63 cents per mask)."

    I mean this is simply amazing how ridiculous this is.
    There is a link to an external Political site on the ED main blog page. Please click it and take your beef somewhere else. Either that or move to a country that you think will please you more, other than the US.

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