The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[dawgday166]

Just noticed this graph. So we now saying these measures will eliminate new cases? Am I wrong in that these measures are just to delay mass cases at once? What experts are saying that these measures will eliminate the virus?

They wanna get us to point where everyone can get tested (for antibodies too) so they can isolate and quarantine each new case.

[hacker]

Fauci and Birxs said 100-200,000 if we do things perfectly. Millions if we do nothing. That's where it came from.

Yeah, they were using the Imperial College model for their numbers back then. Now they're using the IHME model, which I think is too conservative.

[dawgday166]

If y'all think this is bad go read The Great Influenza.

First 5 chapters give a very detailed history of medicine in the US leading up to it. Those chapters a little difficult to get thru cause you keep wondering when you'll get to the flu story. After those chapters it takes off. Freaking nightmare after that.

[defiantdog]

Models can say one thing..... experts can say one thing..... and we can all predict whatever we want. There is one little fact out there. And that is..... no one knows exactly what the hell is going on, and we don't know exactly how to get through this. So the best thing to do is let this thing run its course. Stay home, avoid going out as much as possible, and be patient. This will eventually end, but we cannot rush it.

[dantheman4248]

"It doesn't agree with the core tenets of the only failing system that i've ever known, so it must be shit."

He who is resistant to change...

I've seen two catastrophic level recessions coincide with the house of cards propping of "The Economy" done by the last two Republican presidents be toppled over. Sorry if I don't buy the bullshit anymore. If your economic system can fail this hard twice in the matter of 15 years... maybe you need to look into mixing things up. Why is that so blasphemous for you to comprehend. "La la land." You live in ****ing la la land if you think anyone on either side of the aisle gives a damn about anything other than your vote. You've got a sitting president who gave a cash advance which is designed to literally buy him votes. If he wins, we'll he's not worried about re-election a 3rd time (yet). If he loses, the part where the US comes to collect on their loan falls to someone else.

"If you give everyone cash the prices will rise up." That's where we've shown that we need regulation at the top. I'll hearken back to the 900% increase in C-Suite level pay since Reagan was elected versus the measley 15% increase for the average worker. That right there says that it needs regulation, sorry if that hurts your "but muh free market" feelings, snowflake. That generation proved that they can't be trusted with that much reign over the distribution of pay. They ruined the system that you hold near and dear to your heart and now it doesn't work for the common man.

I get it, when you were a kid it worked so clearly this generation is just "lazy". You've put your head in the sand and not questioned anything beyond that. The lazy thought is evident by "people just wont work if you give them free money." You're projecting and not understanding what UBI should cover. It should be for the basics. Food, Water, Shelter. I'll say it one more time so maybe you'll understand. People as a whole are not happy with only being allowed to do the basics. This quarantine is proof of that. We are not lazy. There will still be workers.

It's actually quite scary when you analyze your argument against UBI. Your hypothesis is that the only thing motivating people to go to work is FEAR of being homeless/without food. You've literally stated that you believe it's ok humans should be in a constant state of fear. Am I wrong for wanting to change that?

You all keep mocking what I'm saying, but defending a proven LOSER system. 2 Recessions in 15 years. Some of the worst shit that we've seen in a loooooooong ****ing time. And what happens on the other side of the recessions. We bailout big business and give them all the money because trickle-down economics. IT DOESNT WORK. So propose something else or shut up your criticism. You're defending a system that has already shown it won't work by claiming another can't work.

And as people sooooooo scared of communism / socialism. You're main fears are the way you fear the government control of things. Newsflash, the guy in charge is trying to become a total authority power. He's even telling you this point blank that he thinks he has and should have total authority. So we're well on our way to having the negatives of communism mixed in with the negatives of capitalism.

But yea, I live in la la land. Just be sure to apologize to your grandchildren when you see them on the other side. At the rate we're going that's gonna be sooner rather than later with as many of the horsemen as we have running around. War just reared his head again, China vs. USA is eminent. That means Pestilence, War, and Death are roaming about. With the Locust swarm in Africa causing major Famine.... I'll be praying for us.

[StateDawg44]

You're the only one that keeps bringing government into it.

By all means, keep going though.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Dantheman, your assertion that the trickle down theory does not work is spot on. It only serves to make the rich richer and the poor even poorer.

[DownwardDawg]

Dantheman, your assertion that the trickle down theory does not work is spot on. It only serves to make the rich richer and the poor even poorer.

One of the dumbest things ever posted here. I see it at work every single day.

[Dolphus Raymond]

No, history has proven that the trickle-down theory does not work in the long term. Hey, at one time, many decades ago, I too worshiped at the alter of trickle-down economics. However, I now adhere to Einstein?s definition of insanity.

[AROB44]

No, history has proven that the trickle-down theory does not work in the long term. Hey, at one time, many decades ago, I too worshiped at the alter of trickle-down economics. However, I now adhere to Einstein?s definition of insanity.

Trickle down = pisssed on

[BeardoMSU]

Trickle down = pisssed on

You an R. Kelly fan, too, I see...**

[Extendedcab]

"It doesn't agree with the core tenets of the only failing system that i've ever known, so it must be shit."

He who is resistant to change...

I've seen two catastrophic level recessions coincide with the house of cards propping of "The Economy" done by the last two Republican presidents be toppled over. Sorry if I don't buy the bullshit anymore. If your economic system can fail this hard twice in the matter of 15 years... maybe you need to look into mixing things up. Why is that so blasphemous for you to comprehend. "La la land." You live in ****ing la la land if you think anyone on either side of the aisle gives a damn about anything other than your vote. You've got a sitting president who gave a cash advance which is designed to literally buy him votes. If he wins, we'll he's not worried about re-election a 3rd time (yet). If he loses, the part where the US comes to collect on their loan falls to someone else.

"If you give everyone cash the prices will rise up." That's where we've shown that we need regulation at the top. I'll hearken back to the 900% increase in C-Suite level pay since Reagan was elected versus the measley 15% increase for the average worker. That right there says that it needs regulation, sorry if that hurts your "but muh free market" feelings, snowflake. That generation proved that they can't be trusted with that much reign over the distribution of pay. They ruined the system that you hold near and dear to your heart and now it doesn't work for the common man.

I get it, when you were a kid it worked so clearly this generation is just "lazy". You've put your head in the sand and not questioned anything beyond that. The lazy thought is evident by "people just wont work if you give them free money." You're projecting and not understanding what UBI should cover. It should be for the basics. Food, Water, Shelter. I'll say it one more time so maybe you'll understand. People as a whole are not happy with only being allowed to do the basics. This quarantine is proof of that. We are not lazy. There will still be workers.

It's actually quite scary when you analyze your argument against UBI. Your hypothesis is that the only thing motivating people to go to work is FEAR of being homeless/without food. You've literally stated that you believe it's ok humans should be in a constant state of fear. Am I wrong for wanting to change that?

You all keep mocking what I'm saying, but defending a proven LOSER system. 2 Recessions in 15 years. Some of the worst shit that we've seen in a loooooooong ****ing time. And what happens on the other side of the recessions. We bailout big business and give them all the money because trickle-down economics. IT DOESNT WORK. So propose something else or shut up your criticism. You're defending a system that has already shown it won't work by claiming another can't work.

And as people sooooooo scared of communism / socialism. You're main fears are the way you fear the government control of things. Newsflash, the guy in charge is trying to become a total authority power. He's even telling you this point blank that he thinks he has and should have total authority. So we're well on our way to having the negatives of communism mixed in with the negatives of capitalism.

But yea, I live in la la land. Just be sure to apologize to your grandchildren when you see them on the other side. At the rate we're going that's gonna be sooner rather than later with as many of the horsemen as we have running around. War just reared his head again, China vs. USA is eminent. That means Pestilence, War, and Death are roaming about. With the Locust swarm in Africa causing major Famine.... I'll be praying for us.

Nobody is scared of socialism or communism. The issue is those government models do not agree with the US Constitution. The US recognizes that our freedoms are GOD given and the constitution guarantees that the US government will NOT infringe on them. Socialism and communism does and will infringe on our GOD given freedoms. We the people do NOT want that. We are not the ones trying to destroy our freedoms,, you are with these proven failed models of human government. The problem is not US, it is you but you fail to see that.

If socialism and communism are so great, then move to a country with that government model and se how you like it (you won't do that though). I guarantee you will not. I work with enough people in those environments to tell you that much.

Now you have again gotten WAY OFF the intent of this thread. Keep your eye on the ball will you? You are a distraction!!

[Cooterpoot]

No, history has proven that the trickle-down theory does not work in the long term. Hey, at one time, many decades ago, I too worshiped at the alter of trickle-down economics. However, I now adhere to Einstein?s definition of insanity.

There was a time before greed completely took over that it was plausible. Been awhile.

[DownwardDawg]

Nobody is scared of socialism or communism. The issue is those government models do not agree with the US Constitution. The US recognizes that our freedoms are GOD given and the constitution guarantees that the US government will NOT infringe on them. Socialism and communism does and will infringe on our GOD given freedoms. We the people do NOT want that. We are not the ones trying to destroy our freedoms,, you are with these proven failed models of human government. The problem is not US, it is you but you fail to see that.

If socialism and communism are so great, then move to a country with that government model and se how you like it (you won't do that though). I guarantee you will not. I work with enough people in those environments to tell you that much.

Now you have again gotten WAY OFF the intent of this thread. Keep your eye on the ball will you? You are a distraction!!

Excellent response. And God I hate politics. And I really hate people that have to interject their political stance in every thread, conversation, etc.....

[Dolphus Raymond]

When the President stated he is the ultimate and final authority, did that agree with the Constitution? Please reference Amendment 10.

[Dawgology]

"It doesn't agree with the core tenets of the only failing system that i've ever known, so it must be shit."

He who is resistant to change...

I've seen two catastrophic level recessions coincide with the house of cards propping of "The Economy" done by the last two Republican presidents be toppled over. Sorry if I don't buy the bullshit anymore. If your economic system can fail this hard twice in the matter of 15 years... maybe you need to look into mixing things up. Why is that so blasphemous for you to comprehend. "La la land." You live in ****ing la la land if you think anyone on either side of the aisle gives a damn about anything other than your vote. You've got a sitting president who gave a cash advance which is designed to literally buy him votes. If he wins, we'll he's not worried about re-election a 3rd time (yet). If he loses, the part where the US comes to collect on their loan falls to someone else.

"If you give everyone cash the prices will rise up." That's where we've shown that we need regulation at the top. I'll hearken back to the 900% increase in C-Suite level pay since Reagan was elected versus the measley 15% increase for the average worker. That right there says that it needs regulation, sorry if that hurts your "but muh free market" feelings, snowflake. That generation proved that they can't be trusted with that much reign over the distribution of pay. They ruined the system that you hold near and dear to your heart and now it doesn't work for the common man.

I get it, when you were a kid it worked so clearly this generation is just "lazy". You've put your head in the sand and not questioned anything beyond that. The lazy thought is evident by "people just wont work if you give them free money." You're projecting and not understanding what UBI should cover. It should be for the basics. Food, Water, Shelter. I'll say it one more time so maybe you'll understand. People as a whole are not happy with only being allowed to do the basics. This quarantine is proof of that. We are not lazy. There will still be workers.

It's actually quite scary when you analyze your argument against UBI. Your hypothesis is that the only thing motivating people to go to work is FEAR of being homeless/without food. You've literally stated that you believe it's ok humans should be in a constant state of fear. Am I wrong for wanting to change that?

You all keep mocking what I'm saying, but defending a proven LOSER system. 2 Recessions in 15 years. Some of the worst shit that we've seen in a loooooooong ****ing time. And what happens on the other side of the recessions. We bailout big business and give them all the money because trickle-down economics. IT DOESNT WORK. So propose something else or shut up your criticism. You're defending a system that has already shown it won't work by claiming another can't work.

And as people sooooooo scared of communism / socialism. You're main fears are the way you fear the government control of things. Newsflash, the guy in charge is trying to become a total authority power. He's even telling you this point blank that he thinks he has and should have total authority. So we're well on our way to having the negatives of communism mixed in with the negatives of capitalism.

But yea, I live in la la land. Just be sure to apologize to your grandchildren when you see them on the other side. At the rate we're going that's gonna be sooner rather than later with as many of the horsemen as we have running around. War just reared his head again, China vs. USA is eminent. That means Pestilence, War, and Death are roaming about. With the Locust swarm in Africa causing major Famine.... I'll be praying for us.

I've written and re-written a response to this several times but it's just too much. Good luck to you, brother.

[Dawgology]

When the President stated he is the ultimate and final authority, did that agree with the Constitution? Please reference Amendment 10.

Statements vs. actions. You are allowed to say pretty much whatever you want to say so...yeah...it was constitutional (1st Amendment). But if he TRIED to become a dictator then that would be a constitutional violation and things would get....complicated.

[hacker]

Scott County up to 100 cases very quickly. Must be going through those chicken plants.

I think they now have the highest per capita infection rate by county.

Edit: Nope, Wilkinson does. Scott may be second though.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Dawgology, I agree with your statement regarding 1st Amendment protections of free speech. What concerns me is a President who evidently has little grasp of the Constitution. When he made that statement, he apparently believed it was a statement of fact, and that is disturbing.

[Extendedcab]

Dawgology, I agree with your statement regarding 1st Amendment protections of free speech. What concerns me is a President who evidently has little grasp of the Constitution. When he made that statement, he apparently believed it was a statement of fact, and that is disturbing.

Proper context has to be set here. The President is "CEO" of the Runing Federal Government, meaning of all it departments and agencies (Executive Branch). Obviously he has to abide within the powers granted to him by the constitution. He is the final authority (Executive Branch) within boundaries. Congress's authority is (among others) to investigate and oversee the executive branch and its departments and agencies, to make sure that authority is not violated, and make laws as validated by the judicial.