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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    Again with the political. The thread has been tolerable without you bringing this in here.
    It's not political, it was an attempt at theft of american tax dollars under the guise of Covid-19 relief efforts.

    It directly relates to information about how we are moving forward in our relief efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    It's not political, it was an attempt at theft of american tax dollars under the guise of Covid-19 relief efforts.

    It directly relates to information about how we are moving forward in our relief efforts.
    Taxes ARE theft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Taxes ARE theft
    US already tried the Articles of Confederation but concluded that we kinda have to have enforceable taxes to run society. It would be nice if there wasn't shitbirds ruining it but that's true of all walks of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    US already tried the Articles of Confederation but concluded that we kinda have to have enforceable taxes to run society. It would be nice if there wasn't shitbirds ruining it but that's true of all walks of life.
    Didn't have income taxes back then. Tariffs, property, excise taxes back then and poll taxes on voters. No income tax. Gotta have taxes without a doubt but the national income tax didn't get passed as an amendment till 1913. It was briefly implemented during Civil War and in 1890's tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    It's not political, it was an attempt at theft of american tax dollars under the guise of Covid-19 relief efforts.

    It directly relates to information about how we are moving forward in our relief efforts.
    So you made some good points about folks bashing CA Governor for making mistakes, when Trump has made some too. I never have said Trump hasn't, but anyone in the position he's in or Cuomo/Newsom may make some (those nursing home deaths in NY tho ... that was real stupid).

    So you made some good points now for the turnaround ... I read that article and seems like to me he only implemented the Emergency Powers Act (ain't that it) that you on the Left wanted him to so that ventilators and PPE production could be accelerated.

    Ford doesn't have any experience producing ventilators either. Yet ... a lot of y'all were hollering very loudly cause Trump was moving too slow while trying to decide on who was best to award those contracts to and who also had the capabilities to produce the vents & PPE.
    Last edited by dawgday166; 05-27-2020 at 08:53 PM.

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    103-year-old woman beats corona, and she drinks a beer to celebrate

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ht/5266563002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    103-year-old woman beats corona, and she drinks a beer to celebrate

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ht/5266563002/
    This is in no way political enough to fit in on this thread...how dare you....

    Why has this thread not been locked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    US already tried the Articles of Confederation but concluded that we kinda have to have enforceable taxes to run society. It would be nice if there wasn't shitbirds ruining it but that's true of all walks of life.
    Oh the irony......

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    US already tried the Articles of Confederation but concluded that we kinda have to have enforceable taxes to run society. It would be nice if there wasn't shitbirds ruining it but that's true of all walks of life.
    None of what you said changes the fact it's theft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Didn't have income taxes back then. Tariffs, property, excise taxes back then and poll taxes on voters. No income tax. Gotta have taxes without a doubt but the national income tax didn't get passed as an amendment till 1913. It was briefly implemented during Civil War and in 1890's tho.
    Tariffs use to be the only way the Federal Government got money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Tariffs use to be the only way the Federal Government got money.
    Its not the 1800s anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Its not the 1800s anymore...
    Agreed and there is no way you should look at 19th century politics with 21st century eyes or compare the two at all. I do not have a problem with income tax. In fact I think there should be a national sales tax to go along with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman4248 View Post
    It's not political, it was an attempt at theft of american tax dollars under the guise of Covid-19 relief efforts.

    It directly relates to information about how we are moving forward in our relief efforts.
    I'm sure someone like you wouldn't have any sort of agenda behind posting that or anything though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    I'm sure someone like you wouldn't have any sort of agenda behind posting that or anything though.
    Never, not him!

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    What's with UMMC laying off a couple hundred folks? Covid related?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    What's with UMMC laying off a couple hundred folks? Covid related?
    Banning non-emergency treatment related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Banning non-emergency treatment related.
    Well that sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Banning non-emergency treatment related.
    I wonder how private hospitals are doing. I also wonder how much the VA pays the University every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Banning non-emergency treatment related.
    Yep, we closed off hospitals to "Flatten the Curve". I don't believe the curve even needed to be flattened in some states, it was going to do it on it's own. This COVID-19 has more hype than bite.

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    It's not just UMC. Most hospitals in the state are in a similar situation. Layoffs, unpaid time for management, jobs not being filled.
    NY never even ran out of space. MS was never going to even remotely fill up. We've effectively 17'd up everything shutting down.

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