The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[dantheman4248]

.03% of the population has died. That's tragic, but it's not a disaster. And yes, it matters that somewhere between 30-40% of those people were in nursing homes. People usually die within about a year of entering a nursing home. The median stay in a nursing home before death is less than half a year. The average is just over a year because of the small percentage of residents that do survive a good while. That's not being callous. It's a normal and good thing to view deaths of young people as more of a problem than deaths of the old and infirm, for both moral and practical reasons. People making stupid staements like liverpool's are just virtue signaling to pretend that they care more than other people, or they are just children who don't understand that wishes and unicorn poop can't make reality disappear, or they are just selfish ass holes themselves and are arguing from a position of self interest.

Bad shit is going to happen from time to time and coronavirus is bad. We are only freaking out and destroying our economy because we have been so good at avoiding and/or managing bad things that we have deluded ourselves into thinking that they are always avoidable.

Idk how you define disaster. Guess Korea, Nam, Iraq, 9/11, Pearl Harbor, etc don't count. Normandy or bust.

[Johnson85]

Idk how you define disaster. Guess Korea, Nam, Iraq, 9/11, Pearl Harbor, etc don't count. Normandy or bust.

It's a little different comparing emergent diseases and wars or acts of war. We very likely have a new disease that's just going to be part of our disease burden going forward and it has a IFR somewhere in the range of .3%. That's extremely bad. It's probably going to show up in life expectancy numbers, although not as much as you'd think because so many of the deaths are with people that likely would have died within a year anyway. It will probably be COVID and Flu season going forward, and that's a significant drain on quality of life. That could fairly be called a disaster, but I would resist that because people are using it as a reason to inflict a ton of avoidable and unnecessary harm. There are bad things that happen that are unavoidable and we shouldn't make things worse b/c we think there is always a silver bullet.

ETA: Also, while this is worse than vietnam b/c it will be an ongoing thing, 58k deaths of people of military age, many in their early twenties if not late teens, is a much bigger loss than we have suffered so far. It will probably not be worse by the time Wuhan works its way through the population unless we get an upside surprise, but as of right now, there's no question the toll of vietnam was worse.