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    There's a Social Distancing Scoreboard available now that uses GPS data to figure out how well we're social distancing by state and county:

    https://www.unacast.com/covid19/soci...ing-scoreboard

    Not surprisingly, Mississippi gets a D-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg2003 View Post
    The way we are doing this is so dumb. We need to be performing mass screenings of people. That way, we can just isolate those people for 2 weeks, and we can slowly return to work soon. Screen everyone in nursing homes, grocery store workers, ect. All of the high risk people. When they come up positive, take them out of circulation, so they don't become super spreaders. That's basically what South Korea did, and they are opening back up. We are just sitting around at home with no end in site.
    How often do we screen people? I could be exposed, test negative, and then be positive tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    136 new cases and 2 new deaths in MS.

    That's a total of 1073 cases and 22 deaths. Mortality rate for MS is 2%.
    Again, that's not the mortality rate. That's only of those lucky enough to get a test and actually be reported. The criteria for testing prevents a true mortality rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    There's a Social Distancing Scoreboard available now that uses GPS data to figure out how well we're social distancing by state and county:

    https://www.unacast.com/covid19/soci...ing-scoreboard

    Not surprisingly, Mississippi gets a D-
    Did they get consent to track people's cell phones?

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    The four hospitals I deal with in central MS thought this week would be a huge week numbers wise for their facilities. They've been surprised by the low numbers to this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Did they get consent to track people's cell phones?
    They just buy it from your telephone provider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg2003 View Post
    The way we are doing this is so dumb. We need to be performing mass screenings of people. That way, we can just isolate those people for 2 weeks, and we can slowly return to work soon. Screen everyone in nursing homes, grocery store workers, ect. All of the high risk people. When they come up positive, take them out of circulation, so they don't become super spreaders. That's basically what South Korea did, and they are opening back up. We are just sitting around at home with no end in site.
    That might have worked at the very beginning, but there were way too few kits. It’s too late to try that approach now. Also, S. Korea was much more transparent with sharing their test results with the general public. The local, state, and federal governments in the U.S. still haven’t figured out how important that is. Hell, here in Dallas, they didn’t even publicize that a restaurant worker had tested positive, so they had no way to notify some of the customers that they might have been exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yep, apparently the US could possibly have 1.5 million deaths from this as worst case scenario. Somehow, with our healthcare system and resources we are going to be 100x worse off than any other country in the world and about 20x's worse the entire rest of the world combined.
    The healthcare system is not at fault here. No one would, or could, afford to keep up a healthcare system that had enough ICU beds, ventilators and healthcare workers to treat 2% of the population over a couple of months.

    Our slow response, Dumbass politicians saying Old people want to die (thanks TX Lt Governor), and "ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do" attitude kept it spreading for weeks longer than anyone else so far.

    18 states, including Florida, have not announced lockdowns to prevent the spread...

    The ONLY country proven to have contained the outbreak so far is South Korea. They tested ~0.7% of their population, and did strict isolation of those infected and quarantine of those in contact with anyone infected. And it still took a month, and a spread to ~10,000 cases to turn the tide...

    For the US to test that many people, is 2.5 million tests. They started this testing when they had 30 cases. We have almost 200,000, and have not begun anything close to that level of containment. And Therefore need to test closer to 10% of the population to track and trace. That's ~36 million tests, or 36x what we have done so far.... We have ramped up, so far to ~100,000 tests per day.... Having a blood antibody test will help speed this up.


    This is what our month delay cost us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Did they get consent to track people's cell phones?
    Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    There's a Social Distancing Scoreboard available now that uses GPS data to figure out how well we're social distancing by state and county:

    https://www.unacast.com/covid19/soci...ing-scoreboard

    Not surprisingly, Mississippi gets a D-
    That's cool data, but I'm not sure how helpful it is, especially comparing between states and between rural and urban areas. The people I know are still moving around a lot while still social distancing. As opposed to say a 7 mile round trip commute, they might take several walks a day, including one that involves getting in the car and driving to a non-crowded place that is better for walking. Or they might ride their bikes for a ten mile ride, or for people lucky enough, get in boats and ride. That probably all washes out some in the aggregation as there are probably lots of people that are social distancing by sitting on their couch and watching netflix. But not sure how you can compensate for the fact that in rural areas and even suburban areas, you can do a ton of traveling without exposing yourself or anybody else where as in urban cores, you can barely leave the apartment and you are exposing lots more people.

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    There is a whole lot of trashing the data/projections based on the way it was collected, but at the same time people using the data we have to illustrate how this is overblown. Everyone is looking for a perfect system and projection but its just not possible. What is apparent is the numbers are growing no matter how you twist it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheltonChoked View Post
    The healthcare system is not at fault here. No one would, or could, afford to keep up a healthcare system that had enough ICU beds, ventilators and healthcare workers to treat 2% of the population over a couple of months.

    Our slow response, Dumbass politicians saying Old people want to die (thanks TX Lt Governor), and "ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do" attitude kept it spreading for weeks longer than anyone else so far.

    18 states, including Florida, have not announced lockdowns to prevent the spread...

    The ONLY country proven to have contained the outbreak so far is South Korea. They tested ~0.7% of their population, and did strict isolation of those infected and quarantine of those in contact with anyone infected. And it still took a month, and a spread to ~10,000 cases to turn the tide...

    For the US to test that many people, is 2.5 million tests. They started this testing when they had 30 cases. We have almost 200,000, and have not begun anything close to that level of containment. And Therefore need to test closer to 10% of the population to track and trace. That's ~36 million tests, or 36x what we have done so far.... We have ramped up, so far to ~100,000 tests per day.... Having a blood antibody test will help speed this up.


    This is what our month delay cost us.
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef dixon View Post
    There is a whole lot of trashing the data/projections based on the way it was collected, but at the same time people using the data we have to illustrate how this is overblown. Everyone is looking for a perfect system and projection but its just not possible. What is apparent is the numbers are growing no matter how you twist it.
    Data shows hospital admittance in MS has been flat. It's actually down from its peak. And that's the number that really matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.
    Yep, it's gonna run it's course. I talked to a head surgeon at forrest general on sunday and he reiterated this fact.

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    Hot rumor tater tot to hold a 3:30 presser announcing statewide lockdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Data shows hospital admittance in MS has been flat. It's actually down from its peak. And that's the number that really matters.
    This, I believe me and Cooter must be talking to some of the same folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    A couple of stats I would like to see. How many deaths have had underlying health issues
    Also, how many in NY would have survived had they been administered the malaria treatment
    If you NEED the "malaria treatment" You are getting the "malaria treatment". But only those that NEED it. AKA THOSE IN A HOSPITAL.

    Butto all those that listened to a guy touting it as a cure all that doesn't have a ****ing clue about Medical treatments of infectious diseases, YOU DON'T NEED IT.

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