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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    So tossing salads is out?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwN9TsK4lo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Worth a read from arguably the most respected pathologist in the country.

    https://pg-share.newsslide.com/a1d03...NBLRF.facebook
    I guess I?m not seeng the panic and hysteria this doctor keeps talking about. I?ve seen plenty of people that are excessively cautious, joggers with masks are an example, but I?d rather have that than people that take no precautions at all. State and local governments have issued what seems like draconian shutdowns to many, but I?d probably have done much the same if I had their responsibilities on my shoulders, especially with a brand new pathogen that we had very little information about. People keep saying we need to open things up, but isn?t that what we?re doing? You can debate how fast we should try to return to normal, but the overwhelming majority of people think we should proceed cautiously, so they?re going to be cautious no matter what the government allows them to do. The people that are in a hurry are just going to have to live with that. If we try to go too fast and end up with a more serious second wave, everyone will pay the price for that. As for the people that think we should just isolate the vulnerable and everyone else just jump back into their normal routine, sorry, the world doesn?t work like that. Besides, there?s not nearly as many people willing to do that as you think there are. They?re just the ones yelling the loudest.
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    I would think it's 65-35 with the 65 being in favor opening everything up with measures in place and vulnerable citizens staying sheltered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebob View Post
    I guess I?m not seeng the panic and hysteria this doctor keeps talking about. I?ve seen plenty of people that are excessively cautious, joggers with masks are an example, but I?d rather have that than people that take no precautions at all. State and local governments have issued what seems like draconian shutdowns to many, but I?d probably have done much the same if I had their responsibilities on my shoulders, especially with a brand new pathogen that we had very little information about. People keep saying we need to open things up, but isn?t that what we?re doing? You can debate how fast we should try to return to normal, but the overwhelming majority of people think we should proceed cautiously, so they?re going to be cautious no matter what the government allows them to do. The people that are in a hurry are just going to have to live with that. If we try to go too fast and end up with a more serious second wave, everyone will pay the price for that. As for the people that think we should just isolate the vulnerable and everyone else just jump back into their normal routine, sorry, the world doesn?t work like that. Besides, there?s not nearly as many people willing to do that as you think there are. They?re just the ones yelling the loudest.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    I would think it's 65-35 with the 65 being in favor opening everything up with measures in place and vulnerable citizens staying sheltered.
    Polls say otherwise. The majority thinks we are moving too fast. If it backfires there will be a lot of politicians looking for new jobs in the next election cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joebob View Post
    I guess I?m not seeng the panic and hysteria this doctor keeps talking about. I?ve seen plenty of people that are excessively cautious, joggers with masks are an example, but I?d rather have that than people that take no precautions at all. State and local governments have issued what seems like draconian shutdowns to many, but I?d probably have done much the same if I had their responsibilities on my shoulders, especially with a brand new pathogen that we had very little information about. People keep saying we need to open things up, but isn?t that what we?re doing? You can debate how fast we should try to return to normal, but the overwhelming majority of people think we should proceed cautiously, so they?re going to be cautious no matter what the government allows them to do. The people that are in a hurry are just going to have to live with that. If we try to go too fast and end up with a more serious second wave, everyone will pay the price for that. As for the people that think we should just isolate the vulnerable and everyone else just jump back into their normal routine, sorry, the world doesn?t work like that. Besides, there?s not nearly as many people willing to do that as you think there are. They?re just the ones yelling the loudest.
    You might want to read up on Cyril Wecht before you call him just this doctor. I guarantee he's forgot more than most of us will ever know. If he has an opinion best to listen. He's also in Pennsylvania where they are pretty much under draconian rule right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Polls say otherwise. The majority thinks we are moving too fast. If it backfires there will be a lot of politicians looking for new jobs in the next election cycle.
    I believe we should stay shut down too ... as long as all the essential good and services folks (you know, like grocery stores and such) are allowed to sit home too so they can stay safe with the rest of us.

    Then we'll find out how fast people's minds would change on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I believe we should stay shut down too ... as long as all the essential good and services folks (you know, like grocery stores and such) are allowed to sit home too so they can stay safe with the rest of us.

    Then we'll find out how fast people's minds would change on that.
    Yeah, I'm not willing to risk it, but Walmart employees better**

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    I would think it's 65-35 with the 65 being in favor opening everything up with measures in place and vulnerable citizens staying sheltered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I believe we should stay shut down too ... as long as all the essential good and services folks (you know, like grocery stores and such) are allowed to sit home too so they can stay safe with the rest of us.

    Then we'll find out how fast people's minds would change on that.
    I think we need to go beyond that, slowly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    Just read article with 2 of the poll questions in it. The question polled was...

    "Do you think it?s a good idea or a bad idea to do each of the following without further testing for the coronavirus?"

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/84751...by-coronavirus

    The "further testing" is a pretty big part of that question. Whoever put that graphic together left that off for some reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Just read article with 2 of the poll questions in it. The question polled was...

    "Do you think it?s a good idea or a bad idea to do each of the following without further testing for the coronavirus?"

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/29/84751...by-coronavirus

    The "further testing" is a pretty big part of that question. Whoever put that graphic together left that off for some reason
    I M A G I N E T H A T !!!

    Probably a group composed that poll consisting of deadhead, dano, hacker, Liverpool, etc. They on the NPR board ain't they ***** And they got the results they wanted haha.

    So we started out trying to flatten the curve so healthcare didn't get overwhelmed. All those military hospitals Cuomo requested were put up and would hold several hundred maybe thousands of folks and only 37 ever entered them I believe. Trump responded quickly on those. All the vents Cuomo said he needed ... didn't need them. But Trump doing horrible job .. yes he is ****

    Why is he doing a horrible job ... cause now we gotta have a vaccine before we open back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Polls say otherwise. The majority thinks we are moving too fast. If it backfires there will be a lot of politicians looking for new jobs in the next election cycle.
    Polls also said Hillary would win big...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Polls also said Hillary would win big...
    Yep. You can get literally any kind of poll results you want by who you ask and how the questions are asked.

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    Open this whole mutha17er up and roll. One hospital in my group has had 1 death only of patients on vents. One.....
    Take measures and move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    That graphic is fake news and you know it. Just like 7 explained above. See response to Liverpool below for request.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/despite-widespread-economic-hardship-most-americans-not-ready-to-reopen-poll-says
    Last edited by confucius say; 05-16-2020 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Polls say otherwise. The majority thinks we are moving too fast. If it backfires there will be a lot of politicians looking for new jobs in the next election cycle.
    Cite please. I've not found a single recent poll that says a geographically-balanced majority of Americans disagree with reopening with proper measures in place and vulnerable populations remaining sheltered.
    Last edited by confucius say; 05-16-2020 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    Everybody needs to start burning them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Everybody needs to start burning them!
    Best advice in this whole thread lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I M A G I N E T H A T !!!

    Probably a group composed that poll consisting of deadhead, dano, hacker, Liverpool, etc. They on the NPR board ain't they ***** And they got the results they wanted haha.

    And for that legitimate unbiased poll*** (what a joke) Add in "Compiled with the help from HuffPost Polling Editor" and then look at who posted it on here. That should tell everyone all they need to know. More agenda driven garbage.

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