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05-01-2020, 12:19 PM
#2921
Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Time to open this bitch back up.***
Agree ... Open the **** up.
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05-01-2020, 12:25 PM
#2922
Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Agree ... Open the **** up.
I still want answer from those who think nothing should open back up, when is it ok to open up? The county w the largest amount of positive is 1.2%. So we sit tight until when?? Our economy is going to be brutal. Might crash anyway. But if we lock down any longer I assure you we are toast. More people are going to die. I get it. But social distancing was never designed to stop the virus, nor deaths. Just slow it. That's been done. And yes w had the highest number of cases yesterday. Again I get it. Prior to that we've been flat for a while w some small ups and downs. I'll say this again, the economic crisis from this will be 100x greater than the virus itself....
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05-01-2020, 12:30 PM
#2923
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I still want answer from those who think nothing should open back up, when is it ok to open up? The county w the largest amount of positive is 1.2%. So we sit tight until when?? Our economy is going to be brutal. Might crash anyway. But if we lock down any longer I assure you we are toast. More people are going to die. I get it. But social distancing was never designed to stop the virus, nor deaths. Just slow it. That's been done. And yes w had the highest number of cases yesterday. Again I get it. Prior to that we've been flat for a while w some small ups and downs. I'll say this again, the economic crisis from this will be 100x greater than the virus itself....
Just keep printing that money. Grandkids may end up speaking Chinese, but whatever...
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05-01-2020, 12:30 PM
#2924
Originally Posted by
hacker
Anyway.
Looks like MS is including "probable" deaths now too.
As a reminder, this means that medical examiner put this on their death certificate.
As another reminder, nobody is getting money for these dead bodies that have covid listed on their death certificate. The money is only for hospitals with actual positive tests. Since these dead people did not test positive, there is no money.
New cases reported today: 397
New deaths reported today: 20 *
* 11 of the deaths reported today occurred between March 29 and April 16, and are based on death certificate investigations.
Also highest number of cases reported so far.
Scott County: 339 total cases, 1.2% of the population has tested positive
You don't have to have a positive lab confirmed test to get money for covid patients as a hospital under CARES.
ETA: below link is a good read on the CDC guidance under the CARES and how hospitals are reimbursed. It is acceptable to report deaths as covid 19 deaths without a positive test if it is likely or suspected the death was covid 19 related, even where the patient tested negative if it is suspected there was a false negative.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
Last edited by confucius say; 05-01-2020 at 12:59 PM.
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05-01-2020, 12:32 PM
#2925
379 cases today in Mississippi. Are we hitting our peak?
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05-01-2020, 12:32 PM
#2926
On the 397 new cases today, doesn't there seem to be one day a week where there a good bit more cases than the others? Do we happen to get outside testing numbers once a week or something?
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05-01-2020, 12:32 PM
#2927
The way this has been handled from the beginning has been completely balls up. They did this half assed approach trying to straddle the fence of protecting the economy and slowing the spread. All they did was 17 up. They needed to do a real shut down two months ago for 2-3 weeks. Then we could probably be opening back up and getting the economy going. But all they did was destroy the economy and do next to nothing to slow the spread.
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05-01-2020, 12:33 PM
#2928
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I still want answer from those who think nothing should open back up, when is it ok to open up? The county w the largest amount of positive is 1.2%. So we sit tight until when?? Our economy is going to be brutal. Might crash anyway. But if we lock down any longer I assure you we are toast. More people are going to die. I get it. But social distancing was never designed to stop the virus, nor deaths. Just slow it. That's been done. And yes w had the highest number of cases yesterday. Again I get it. Prior to that we've been flat for a while w some small ups and downs. I'll say this again, the economic crisis from this will be 100x greater than the virus itself....
This.
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05-01-2020, 12:34 PM
#2929
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Just keep printing that money. Grandkids may end up speaking Chinese, but whatever...
And this.
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05-01-2020, 12:40 PM
#2930
Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I still want answer from those who think nothing should open back up, when is it ok to open up? The county w the largest amount of positive is 1.2%. So we sit tight until when?? Our economy is going to be brutal. Might crash anyway. But if we lock down any longer I assure you we are toast. More people are going to die. I get it. But social distancing was never designed to stop the virus, nor deaths. Just slow it. That's been done. And yes w had the highest number of cases yesterday. Again I get it. Prior to that we've been flat for a while w some small ups and downs. I'll say this again, the economic crisis from this will be 100x greater than the virus itself....
I have zero problem with opening it up like Sweden and just letting it burn through the population. However, I am in PPE at work and can stay home during the week. So it's unlikely I'll suffer the health consequences of opening up completely. I can watch from the window as other people get coronavirus, and we develop heard immunity. If other people want to be the sacrificial lambs, I won't stand in their way.
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05-01-2020, 12:43 PM
#2931
Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
The way this has been handled from the beginning has been completely balls up. They did this half assed approach trying to straddle the fence of protecting the economy and slowing the spread. All they did was 17 up. They needed to do a real shut down two months ago for 2-3 weeks. Then we could probably be opening back up and getting the economy going. But all they did was destroy the economy and do next to nothing to slow the spread.
Oh it's slowed the spread, that's no in question. But there is zero way to lock everyone down all the time for 3 weeks. Police, healthcare, electricity people, and obviously people have to go to the grocery. Even if you limit it to that, that's not a lockdown. Italy went as far on a lockdown as possible, it didn't stop there.
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05-01-2020, 12:44 PM
#2932
Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
I have zero problem with opening it up like Sweden and just letting it burn through the population. However, I am in PPE at work and can stay home during the week. So it's unlikely I'll suffer the health consequences of opening up completely. I can watch from the window as other people get coronavirus, and we develop heard immunity. If other people want to be the sacrificial lambs, I won't stand in their way.
Let's shut down Walmarts, grocery stores, restaurants, and food processing too. Why should they be "sacrificial lambs"?
ETA... we won't. We can't. Well I think we're at the point where we have to open up for the same reason, we have to
Last edited by msstate7; 05-01-2020 at 01:11 PM.
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05-01-2020, 12:46 PM
#2933
The case number isn't really the one that drives decision making. The numbers that matter are hospitalization numbers and ICU numbers. The hospitalization numbers have been trending up and show no sign of leveling off yet. The ICU numbers are steady.
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05-01-2020, 12:58 PM
#2934
Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
The case number isn't really the one that drives decision making. The numbers that matter are hospitalization numbers and ICU numbers. The hospitalization numbers have been trending up and show no sign of leveling off yet. The ICU numbers are steady.
It is interesting to me that icu numbers have not risen and ventilator use has actually decreased, all while hospitalizations have risen sharply. Does that suggest that a treatment once hospitalized is working so as to avoid icu or ventilator use?
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05-01-2020, 01:10 PM
#2935
Originally Posted by
confucius say
It is interesting to me that icu numbers have not risen and ventilator use has actually decreased, all while hospitalizations have risen sharply. Does that suggest that a treatment once hospitalized is working so as to avoid icu or ventilator use?
Or (here comes the conspiracy theory) the hospital wants the 20% premium for a hospitalization. I don't wanna believe our medical people would do this though.
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05-01-2020, 01:12 PM
#2936
Originally Posted by
confucius say
It is interesting to me that icu numbers have not risen and ventilator use has actually decreased, all while hospitalizations have risen sharply. Does that suggest that a treatment once hospitalized is working so as to avoid icu or ventilator use?
Or hospitals are just admitting more people with less severe symptoms for treatment than before.
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05-01-2020, 01:24 PM
#2937
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Or hospitals are just admitting more people with less severe symptoms for treatment than before.
Possibly. Lot of hospitals were empty and laying people off
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05-01-2020, 01:27 PM
#2938
Originally Posted by
confucius say
Possibly. Lot of hospitals were empty and laying people off
Correct. Empty beds and staff being laid off. Hopefully treatments of this are becoming more successful.
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05-01-2020, 01:32 PM
#2939
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Let's shut down Walmarts, grocery stores, restaurants, and food processing too. Why should they be "sacrificial lambs"?
ETA... we won't. We can't. Well I think we're at the point where we have to open up for the same reason, we have to
We don't really have a choice but to open it up IMO. We need 60-70% for herd immunity, so someone's got to take the fall. I personally am not willing to roll the dice, but, if others want to, I have no problem with that.
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05-01-2020, 01:33 PM
#2940
Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Or hospitals are just admitting more people with less severe symptoms for treatment than before.
That's very unlikely because hospitals lose money doing that. Hospitals don't want to admit mamaw with pneumonia.
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