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    I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.

    My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.

    I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.

    Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
    Last edited by Bass Chaser; 05-02-2020 at 09:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg2003 View Post
    So physicians are fraudulently saying people have COVID?
    No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
    Would explain the spike in hospitalizations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
    This is exactly what's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Chaser View Post
    I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.

    My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.

    I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.

    Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
    Symptomatic just means that you have symptoms of a disease and it's a general term.

    In this case to answer your question- yes, this person is contagious since we are talking about Coronavirus.

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    Just watched an Ofificer and Gentleman..., again..... sappy outstandingly good movie! If you don't like that one.. you are not an American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Just watched an Ofificer and Gentleman..., again..... sappy outstandingly good movie! If you don't like that one.. you are not an American.
    Great movie. Lou Gossett one of my favorites.

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    I had a previous co-worker (retired) who caught COVID about 10 days ago. She's 72, has COPD and kidney failure, along with other issues, and went on a vent. She came off the vent yesterday. Crazy how this virus doesn't kill someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Great movie. Lou Gossett one of my favorites.
    Gossett in Iron Eagle and Enemy Mine...yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I had a previous co-worker (retired) who caught COVID about 10 days ago. She's 72, has COPD and kidney failure, along with other issues, and went on a vent. She came off the vent yesterday. Crazy how this virus doesn't kill someone like that.
    Some people are just tough as nails and their body won't quit. I had an uncle who was a fireman. That guy was a medical Rasputin. He had bouts with 4 different cancers, emphysema, a heart attack, and was stabbed, all in this 70s. Was dead on the table 3 times. Took a car wreck that wasn't his fault to kill him.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Chaser View Post
    I don't think we know as much as we thought we did.

    My Mom's nursing home had an employee show up for work with aches and pains but no fever. NH sent the EE home to go to the MD to be examined. MD said EE didn't need COVID test gave meds and released to work. NH tested EE as a precaution and EE tested positive.

    I get weekly updates from the administrator via snail mail.

    Does a symptomatic mean contagious? I haven't found a response that states asymptomatic means you can transfer COVID.
    Symptoms are different with everyone. I never really had a fever but I could breath for 3 weeks. My admin assistant had a fever for an entire week but had no problem breathing. My son has a cough but no other symptoms. All Covid. If you show any symptom..... stay away from people. Not only are you risking others but you're also risking yourself of getting a high viral load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    Symptoms are different with everyone. I never really had a fever but I could breath for 3 weeks. My admin assistant had a fever for an entire week but had no problem breathing. My son has a cough but no other symptoms. All Covid. If you show any symptom..... stay away from people. Not only are you risking others but you're also risking yourself of getting a high viral load.
    It's crazy how it affects people so differently.
    Especially older people but not children whose immune systems are still not strong. Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I understand how people could think it was modified to target a specific subset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    No, but they aren't telling them to go home and self-quarantine like they were. They're admitting them more now.
    Where is your data to show this? I'd be interested in seeing where you see hospitalizations increasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    Where is your data to show this? I'd be interested in seeing where you see hospitalizations increasing.
    Scroll down bout halfway to the chart that shows hospitalizations.

    https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Scroll down bout halfway to the chart that shows hospitalizations.

    https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/14,0,420.html
    Thanks for the information!

    The chart looks like hospitalizations are dropping as of May 1st, so to Cooter's and Commmerce's how does this show that hospitals are admitting more patients to drive their revenues/reimbursements?

    It looks like MS has a population of 3 million, 7,400+ confirmed cases, and only 424 currently hospitalized. Please explain again how hospitals are "gaming" the system and admitting patients that don't need to be? Seems like an awful low number of hospitalizations, as compared to either the overall census and confirmed cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    Thanks for the information!

    The chart looks like hospitalizations are dropping as of May 1st, so to Cooter's and Commmerce's how does this show that hospitals are admitting more patients to drive their revenues/reimbursements?

    It looks like MS has a population of 3 million, 7,400+ confirmed cases, and only 424 currently hospitalized. Please explain again how hospitals are "gaming" the system and admitting patients that don't need to be? Seems like an awful low number of hospitalizations, as compared to either the overall census and confirmed cases.
    I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same

    ETA: nearly 200%, or doubled, since April 12. All while icu has stayed steady and vents are down.
    Last edited by confucius say; 05-03-2020 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same
    This is correct.

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    I hate to tell you guys this but you just can't admit someone to the hospital just because you want to. Not if you want to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    I think the point is if you look since mid April (when hospitals started laying people off for lack of business) the hospitalization numbers are up about 133% but ventilators are down and icu numbers have stayed the same

    ETA: nearly 200%, or doubled, since April 12. All while icu has stayed steady and vents are down.
    So you're saying that an increased hospitalization of 87 patients statewide between April 15th - May 1st is enough evidence for you to claim that all hospitals are admitting to increase revenue? Also, vents and ICUs are relatively flat during that time frame.

    As has already been stated, there is a good chance nursing homes or long term care locations may be referring residents to hospitals to remove them from their situation and to get better care. This care doesn't have to be an ICU or a vent, but a hospital has more resources. It couldn't be that though could it; it has to be that hospitals are greedy and need the revenue.

    I'm sure the reimbursement of 87 COVID patients will ensure that all the hospitals in MS will stay liquid....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    So you're saying that an increased hospitalization of 87 patients statewide between April 15th - May 1st is enough evidence for you to claim that all hospitals are admitting to increase revenue? Also, vents and ICUs are relatively flat during that time frame.

    As has already been stated, there is a good chance nursing homes or long term care locations may be referring residents to hospitals to remove them from their situation and to get better care. This care doesn't have to be an ICU or a vent, but a hospital has more resources. It couldn't be that though could it; it has to be that hospitals are greedy and need the revenue.

    I'm sure the reimbursement of 87 COVID patients will ensure that all the hospitals in MS will stay liquid....
    I'm not saying hospitals are doing this or not, but this article says a woman's COVID treatments was $34,927.43. That times 87 is over 3 million dollars, so hardly insignificant

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