The Covid-19 Info thread (keep politics out please)

[hacker]

Does the fact that we have over 5 times the population not factor into this graph for you?

Do you understand exponential growth? We'll have 100k cases around March 30.

[StateDawg44]

Do you understand exponential growth? We'll have 100k cases around March 30.

Is that a fact?

[dantheman4248]

Is that a fact?

Is this another naysayer wanting to bet all his vcash on it?

My only hold up is that we don't have the test capabilities to get that much tested by then. But I no doubt believe there is 50k+ active cases currently.

[FriarsPoint]

Is this another naysayer wanting to bet all his vcash on it?

My only hold up is that we don't have the test capabilities to get that much tested by then. But I no doubt believe there is 50k+ active cases currently.

For sure. Just found out a nephew and cousin could have symptoms and my sister has to quarantine. And my next door neighbor nurse(yep, pharmacist on one side and nurse on the other) told me a doctor at the hospital here in little rural south Alabama is pretty sure he’s seen cases with it but couldn’t test and sent em home.

[StateDawg44]

Is this another naysayer wanting to bet all his vcash on it?

My only hold up is that we don't have the test capabilities to get that much tested by then. But I no doubt believe there is 50k+ active cases currently.

First of all, what are you even suggesting a bet on? All that type of comment really proves is you are here to be able to try and tell someone ?I told you so? and to troll. Go **** yourself.

Second of all, I?ve done nothing but question certain stats and graphics that have been posted (like the one I was commenting about that you quoted). I consider that doing my due diligence and not lapping up every single thing I read. Especially considering the amount of misinformation that is out there and some of which has undoubtedly been posted in this thread as things develop. You won?t find anywhere that I?ve said all of this is a big nothing burger and not something to be concerned with. All I?ve done is asked people to verify stats or comments or called out pure speculation.

There is no one that knows anything factual about what?s to come and it?s still entirely too early for the US to call any sort of shot. Pretending like you can is purely speculative.

[dantheman4248]

First of all, what are you even suggesting a bet on? All that type of comment really proves is you are here to be able to try and tell someone ?I told you so? and to troll. Go **** yourself.

Second of all, I?ve done nothing but question certain stats and graphics that have been posted (like the one I was commenting about that you quoted). I consider that doing my due diligence and not lapping up every single thing I read. Especially considering the amount of misinformation that is out there and some of which has undoubtedly been posted in this thread as things develop. You won?t find anywhere that I?ve said all of this is a big nothing burger and not something to be concerned with. All I?ve done is asked people to verify stats or comments or called out pure speculation.

There is no one that knows anything factual about what?s to come and it?s still entirely too early for the US to call any sort of shot. Pretending like you can is purely speculative.

... it's not pure speculation. It's called math and viewing exponential trends. We went from 1k to 10k in less than 10 days. It's pretty spot on to think 100k is attainable in the next 10 days. This thing is spreading at an alarmingly exponential rate and our testing is only broadening to more cases. It's not even speculation it's "doing your due dilligence" and understanding trends.

[dantheman4248]

Do you understand exponential growth? We'll have 100k cases around March 30.

Is that a fact?

-Conversation in this thread on March 20th. Removed name as to not flame because at this point I think the point has been made to those not wanting to believe and shaming them further is just going to hurt the cause.

But it appears it was indeed a fact. The only thing possibly wrong is that it was too conservative of an estimate.

[StateDawg44]

-Conversation in this thread on March 20th. Removed name as to not flame because at this point I think the point has been made to those not wanting to believe and shaming them further is just going to hurt the cause.

But it appears it was indeed a fact. The only thing possibly wrong is that it was too conservative of an estimate.

No need to hide the name. I'll claim that and admit it is a fact now. At the time it was speculation like I was pointing out. I wouldn't expect that from you though.

What you've quoted is out of context. The reason for me asking "Is that a fact?" is because it was early on in this and no one knew and there was so much misinformation. This panned out to be true. And at the same time in my posts following that you conveniently leave out, I very clearly acknowledged it very well could take place and never denied it was a POSSIBILITY. There is a reason I chose the word fact. Nowhere did I say there is no way it happens like you try and paint this picture.

Again, you take quotes and think what I said was me not believing, and that this is not possible when I repeatedly said that there are too many unknowns at that point in time.

Quit with your moral high ground, "trying not to flame" lulz. That's exactly the entire reason for your post. You've been patiently waiting and anticipating the 100,000 mark so you could make this post. You're sick.

[dantheman4248]

No need to hide the name. I'll claim that and admit it is a fact now. At the time it was speculation like I was pointing out. I wouldn't expect that from you though.

What you've quoted is out of context. The reason for me asking "Is that a fact?" is because it was early on in this and no one knew and there was so much misinformation. This panned out to be true. And at the same time in my posts following that you conveniently leave out, I very clearly acknowledged it very well could take place and never denied it was a POSSIBILITY. There is a reason I chose the word fact. Nowhere did I say there is no way it happens like you try and paint this picture.

Again, you take quotes and think what I said was me not believing, and that this is not possible when I repeatedly said that there are too many unknowns at that point in time.

Quit with your moral high ground, "trying not to flame" lulz. That's exactly the entire reason for your post. You've been patiently waiting and anticipating the 100,000 mark so you could make this post. You're sick.

The only context needed is that numbers and statistics were clearly shown to you and a smarmy "oh mr. math guy are you so sure" comment was made. Point was for anyone still hating on the statisticians of the board telling you what's coming that you're likely to end up wrong.

I removed your name because you're already embarrassed enough. That's evident in your post. Point was more for people trust the data as the trends become clearer and we can see where we are headed. Our curve may be flattening. Today is a tell-tale sign of whether or not it's going to exponentially grow again to 1 million quickly.

Just because YOU don't understand the data or know how to interpret the countries actions correctly does not mean that there wasn't enough data to go off of. As I told you that day, the ONLY unknown was whether or not we could test that many. Today we're reaching a new unknown territory. I think we're going to see some levels of as we don't have the capability of testing enough people today that it will make our curve start to flatten. Once we have the quick testing enabled then we'll have a clearer picture of how high we're about to get.

It's not a moral high ground. Has nothing to do with morals at all. It's an explanation that just because you do not understand something does not make it not true.

[StateDawg44]

The only context needed is that numbers and statistics were clearly shown to you and a smarmy "oh mr. math guy are you so sure" comment was made. Point was for anyone still hating on the statisticians of the board telling you what's coming that you're likely to end up wrong.

I removed your name because you're already embarrassed enough. That's evident in your post. Point was more for people trust the data as the trends become clearer and we can see where we are headed. Our curve may be flattening. Today is a tell-tale sign of whether or not it's going to exponentially grow again to 1 million quickly.

Just because YOU don't understand the data or know how to interpret the countries actions correctly does not mean that there wasn't enough data to go off of. As I told you that day, the ONLY unknown was whether or not we could test that many. Today we're reaching a new unknown territory. I think we're going to see some levels of as we don't have the capability of testing enough people today that it will make our curve start to flatten. Once we have the quick testing enabled then we'll have a clearer picture of how high we're about to get.

It's not a moral high ground. Has nothing to do with morals at all. It's an explanation that just because you do not understand something does not make it not true.

I must've forgotten you are so superior when it comes to numbers. Please forgive me and I plead for more enlightenment from you oh mighty one. Thank you so much for taking it easy on me and showing me your mercy by not showing my name.**

Get over yourself. The numbers aren't hard to "understand" but 2 weeks ago ALL of those numbers were speculative. Some of those numbers posted two weeks ago did not come to fruition. Do you deny that? I still stand by what I said AT THAT TIME. Was I wrong? Yes. Am I dumb because of that or ashamed to admit it? Absolutely not. You really are in a sad place with all of this.

I'm sure you've been wrong in this thread also, but I don't feel the need or even remotely care in the least to waste my time searching and digging just to try to throw it up in your face or anyone else for that matter like you seem to enjoy doing. Only to act self-righteous and claim that is IN FACT, not what I was intending to do.

You think you have completed something or proven something but really, the joke is on you. The way I am behaving in life as things develop has not changed since it became a pandemic. You don't, IN FACT, know one single thing about my actions and how serious I am taking any of this. You definitely make assumptions and are plenty wrong on many aspects of everything I am personally doing and that is on you. Do you hear me claiming you are dumb and throwing insults? **** no because it does no good like you seem to think you are doing all of us. Again like I said, you are in a very sad place in all of this.

At this point, if I knew you personally (thankfully I don't) I wouldn't be concerned with what would happen if you contracted the virus (hopefully you don't). I'd be more concerned about the toll this thread is taking on you and how caught up in it you are. Acting like you are reaching the masses and quick to belittle and talk down to anyone with simple doubts. Right or wrong, it's natural for humans to doubt or believe. I do know I haven't once posted any false information in here so carry on. I know I've done nothing wrong.


Also, the bolded part is combining posts I made a week or so apart from each other. With so many new developments in that span of time you really are trying your best to make someone look dumb while claiming not to.

[dantheman4248]

I must've forgotten you are so superior when it comes to numbers. Please forgive me and I plead for more enlightenment from you oh mighty one. Thank you so much for taking it easy on me and showing me your mercy by not showing my name.**

Get over yourself. The numbers aren't hard to "understand" but 2 weeks ago ALL of those numbers were speculative. Some of those numbers posted two weeks ago did not come to fruition. Do you deny that? I still stand by what I said AT THAT TIME. Was I wrong? Yes. Am I dumb because of that or ashamed to admit it? Absolutely not. You really are in a sad place with all of this.

I'm sure you've been wrong in this thread also, but I don't feel the need or even remotely care in the least to waste my time searching and digging just to try to throw it up in your face or anyone else for that matter like you seem to enjoy doing. Only to act self-righteous and claim that is IN FACT, not what I was intending to do.

You think you have completed something or proven something but really, the joke is on you. The way I am behaving in life as things develop has not changed since it became a pandemic. You don't, IN FACT, know one single thing about my actions and how serious I am taking any of this. You definitely make assumptions and are plenty wrong on many aspects of everything I am personally doing and that is on you. Do you hear me claiming you are dumb and throwing insults? **** no because it does no good like you seem to think you are doing all of us. Again like I said, you are in a very sad place in all of this.

At this point, if I knew you personally (thankfully I don't) I wouldn't be concerned with what would happen if you contracted the virus (hopefully you don't). I'd be more concerned about the toll this thread is taking on you and how caught up in it you are. Acting like you are reaching the masses and quick to belittle and talk down to anyone with simple doubts. Right or wrong, it's natural for humans to doubt or believe. I do know I haven't once posted any false information in here so carry on. I know I've done nothing wrong.


Also, the bolded part is combining posts I made a week or so apart from each other. With so many new developments in that span of time you really are trying your best to make someone look dumb while claiming not to.

You asked "Is that a fact?" and then tried to back it up saying you are doing your due diligence by questioning numbers.

You added 0 to the conversation and just set out to undermine someone who was giving good info. You participated in bad faith. You made an ass of yourself and have tried to recover ever since by flinging mud at others. Just stop. It's embarrassing. You're an embarrassment. I removed your name because I didn't want you to respond.

You can't empathize with other people so it breaks your brain that someone would post things like that to prevent stupidity from running rampant. Still have it in your head that this is about itoldyouso's. No, this is about people rejecting Facts, Science, and Data because it doesn't fit their narrative. I didn't want this virus to explode. I wanted it to stop. But that's considered panicking.

The only things I want are people to get their heads out of the sand on this now, and to be better prepared when this happens again. (Spelling out speculation to you since you need it.) Judging from China's numbers and long-time dishonest tactics, it would not surprise me to see that they are flatly lying about containment or engineered the virus themselves and have a vaccine already to suppress it that they aren't telling anyone about. This feels like a prelude to a biological warfare. (Again speculation.)

[deadheaddawg]

No, this is about people rejecting Facts, Science, and Data because it doesn't fit their narrative. I didn't want this virus to explode. I wanted it to stop. But that's considered panicking.

The only things I want are people to get their heads out of the sand on this now, and to be better prepared when this happens again.

Nailed it

[Extendedcab]

As of this morning:

World Cases __________________ US Cases
741,030________________________143,532

Total Deaths ____________ ______ US Deaths
35,114_________________________2,572

If my analysis is correct, this means the US has 19.37% of the total cases in the world and 7.32% of the total deaths.

Further analysis means that the World death rate is 5.45% (minus the US) and the US death rate is 1.79% (Percentage of deaths of cases tested positive)

None of this is good, but the US death rate is not what the death rate of the remainder of the world is (to date anyway). I know Italy has skewed those numbers but on the whole this is how it breaks down.

[StateDawg44]

You asked "Is that a fact?" and then tried to back it up saying you are doing your due diligence by questioning numbers.

You added 0 to the conversation and just set out to undermine someone who was giving good info. You participated in bad faith. You made an ass of yourself and have tried to recover ever since by flinging mud at others. Just stop. It's embarrassing. You're an embarrassment. I removed your name because I didn't want you to respond.

You can't empathize with other people so it breaks your brain that someone would post things like that to prevent stupidity from running rampant. Still have it in your head that this is about itoldyouso's. No, this is about people rejecting Facts, Science, and Data because it doesn't fit their narrative. I didn't want this virus to explode. I wanted it to stop. But that's considered panicking.

The only things I want are people to get their heads out of the sand on this now, and to be better prepared when this happens again. (Spelling out speculation to you since you need it.) Judging from China's numbers and long-time dishonest tactics, it would not surprise me to see that they are flatly lying about containment or engineered the virus themselves and have a vaccine already to suppress it that they aren't telling anyone about. This feels like a prelude to a biological warfare. (Again speculation.)

You know everything about me. This is so crazy yet amazing at the same time.**

I'm glad the board has you then I guess? Maybe you will make an impact. Not nearly as big as you seem to think you will though. Again, nothing has changed on where I stand in my daily life and definitely wouldn't because of anything you have said or I've been blessed enough to read that you've typed.

I don't know what else you are looking for from me. You just keep responding "flinging mud". Funny saying that to the person who has probably flung more mud than anyone else in the thread, right and wrong on certain points. Like I said, this thread is probably worse for your health than the virus would be. (Please for the love of God, don't take that comment as me saying there is nothing to see here or that you are panicking)

No one on here will claim you have been great during any of this either.

I hope you have a good day and can enjoy it.