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Willie Gay just bent the Combine over...
4.46 forty
39.5 vertical
11'4 broad jump
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Punch out any quarterbacks?
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Originally Posted by
NeuteredDawg
Punch out any quarterbacks?
punched his ticket to the 2nd round.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
punched his ticket to the 2nd round.
I'm interested to see if his character issues drop him or not.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
punched his ticket to the 2nd round.
Pretty much. I sure as hell wouldn’t pass on him if I needed an OLB if I was a GM.
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Originally Posted by
FriarsPoint
Pretty much. I sure as hell wouldn’t pass on him if I needed an OLB if I was a GM.
You got that right. Gay is a game changer. His character issues are not like some of the Olemiss bad apples - Kelly, Kimdiche, etc.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
You got that right. Gay is a game changer. His character issues are not like some of the Olemiss bad apples - Kelly, Kimdiche, etc.
Yeah. At least Gay kept his issues mostly football related instead of flying out of windows.
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I really hope he slips to the saints in the 3rd bc I'm selfish
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I really hope he slips to the saints in the 3rd bc I'm selfish
If he punches out Brees I wouldn't want to be him.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If he punches out Brees I wouldn't want to be him.
Lol
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Good for Willie, MSU and Starkville! Go make millions!
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We're gonna look back one day and remember we had a defense with Simmons, Sweat, Abram, Dantzler, and Gay, and it's going to cause us to hate JoMo even more for losing 5 games with them.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
We're gonna look back one day and remember we had a defense with Simmons, Sweat, Abram, Dantzler, and Gay, and it's going to cause us to hate JoMo even more for losing 5 games with them.
And that means exactly what for the offense? Yeah we had a great D, the offense was not great. The talent was not close on that side of the ball. This ain't defending Joe, it's just stating fact. If you can't score it doesn't matter how good the D is. If we would have had a better O in '99 that was REALLY our year, not 2018.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
And that means exactly what for the offense? Yeah we had a great D, the offense was not great. The talent was not close on that side of the ball. This ain't defending Joe, it's just stating fact. If you can't score it doesn't matter how good the D is. If we would have had a better O in '99 that was REALLY our year, not 2018.
That's what I mean genius. His offense was so incompetent that having an elite defense didn't matter.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
That's what I mean genius. His offense was so incompetent that having an elite defense didn't matter.
Was it his fault? I'm not so sure and never will be. Anyone that is, knows nothing about athletics,
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Was it his fault? I'm not so sure and never will be. Anyone that is, knows nothing about athletics,
You are insane. The offense returned 8 starters from a group ranked in the mid-40?s the previous year
JoVester made that group into a mid-70?s offense.
If you can?t see it was indeed his fault- YOU don?t know anything about sports
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Was it his fault? I'm not so sure and never will be. Anyone that is, knows nothing about athletics,
He tried to wedge a round peg into a square hole.
I still firmly believe that good coaches mold their offense to fit the talent they are given. No matter your opinion on Joe, you can't legitimately argue that he did that offensively.
He returned a solid offense. Not great, but solid. His offense made it below average.
He wasted a historically good defense at MSU. It was as good as the 2010 defense and I thought that was the best defense we had put on the field since our SEC Title game defense.
Complete side note - any idiot that didn't want Gay back because he punched out our QB, you can go kick rocks. This guy would be a superstar for us next year. The fact that some of our fanbase were happy to see him leave are just morons.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
That's what I mean genius. His offense was so incompetent that having an elite defense didn't matter.
Yep on O Joe had what 3 NFL OL, 3 in the backfield that had 1000 yard seasons rushing, all time leading rushing SEC QB, SEC leading rushing RB. O didn't produce but it wasn't because we didn't have any players.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Yep on O Joe had what 3 NFL OL, 3 in the backfield that had 1000 yard seasons rushing, all time leading rushing SEC QB, SEC leading rushing RB. O didn't produce but it wasn't because we didn't have any players.
Did I say he didn't have players? I think you guys are seriously misunderstanding what I'm saying.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Yep on O Joe had what 3 NFL OL, 3 in the backfield that had 1000 yard seasons rushing, all time leading rushing SEC QB, SEC leading rushing RB. O didn't produce but it wasn't because we didn't have any players.
I notice you didn't mention any passing or receiving numbers. That was the problem. Was it lack of talent or scheme? No way to know. I do know one FACT, you ain't gonna line it up and run over SEC defenses enough to win a championship anymore. You have to have a credible passing game. We did not have it under Joe.
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