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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    You think? Which ones you think would transfer if coached hard?
    I think any outside of Jackson could transfer. I just don't know though. I mean it's obvious that the level he's currently coaching defense isn't producing results, so I don't really know what the results of ratcheting it up even more would look like. I mean maybe they come together and start listening or maybe he decides they aren't gonna cut it and we process them out in two years. It's no way of knowing until we get to that level. Again, they're not freshman anymore so the youth excuse gets old really fast when you hear it every game.

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    I think figuring out our rotations would help too. Defining roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    I just think Vic needs to ride them harder about their defense and stop excusing it due to perceived youth. He wouldn't have put up with that crap 4 years ago when the last nucleus were sophomores.
    The first thing I would experiment with is not picking up full court. I think against better teams we are producing less off of full court than we are giving up.

    Also it appears to me our timing is off on getting the ball to the shooter running the baseline.

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    coaching had alittle to do with this loss. need to use the zone more as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    The first thing I would experiment with is not picking up full court. I think against better teams we are producing less off of full court than we are giving up.

    Also it appears to me our timing is off on getting the ball to the shooter running the baseline.
    Spot on, no need to press every second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    The first thing I would experiment with is not picking up full court. I think against better teams we are producing less off of full court than we are giving up.

    Also it appears to me our timing is off on getting the ball to the shooter running the baseline.
    Plus pressing the full game and going man to man defense the full game is wearing our team out. Against Bama we simply looked like we ran out of gas. The OT game at Auburn drained us and then we went 40 minutes of man to man defense against Bama (no zone) plus we full court pressed most of the game. We had NO LEGS in the 4th quarter and it showed big time. Showed in our defensive rotations and showed in our shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Plus pressing the full game and going man to man defense the full game is wearing our team out. Against Bama we simply looked like we ran out of gas. The OT game at Auburn drained us and then we went 40 minutes of man to man defense against Bama (no zone) plus we full court pressed most of the game. We had NO LEGS in the 4th quarter and it showed big time. Showed in our defensive rotations and showed in our shooting.
    Another spot on post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Plus pressing the full game and going man to man defense the full game is wearing our team out. Against Bama we simply looked like we ran out of gas. The OT game at Auburn drained us and then we went 40 minutes of man to man defense against Bama (no zone) plus we full court pressed most of the game. We had NO LEGS in the 4th quarter and it showed big time. Showed in our defensive rotations and showed in our shooting.
    I think we could run a zone some-to change the pace. put Carter at the 4-Morris at the 5 with Jackson--put taylor and danberry athe 1 and 2--then run a zone. On offense bring carter out high drop Morris into the post and let Jackson run the baseline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    We stopped recruiting grinders and started star chasing. It's just a college basketball problem across both men's and women's. If you star chase you can't treat them the way you did your under recruited players or you'll lose them. However, there's no excuse for the returners to be playing as bad as they are. And there's a reason Hunter doesn't get enough minutes......she plays ZERO defense. She's a 3 and D player without the ability to play D. Vic won't put up with someone not playing D.
    I totally agree on recruiting. The team and game has totally changed now for Vic. He won with hard nosed under recruited players but they had talent. Now he is collecting the nations stars and that is another whole approach to coach and get team buy in. I think this sums up 90% of what is going on with this team.

    I disagree on AEH. AEH can play D as good as most of the guards I've seen play. Not saying she is a D specialist by no means but as good as we have put on floor. I watch our Gs get driven by game after game.
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