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    JT is telling people he's fine. Take it for what it's worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I'm no expert but the biggest problem I see is way to much "travel ball" for pitchers. They pitch all year long now days and it starts way before they are developed in the muscle structure.
    Dead on the money!!!!! Two that played with my kid wound up with TJ ( neither one is a great talent) sadly I have lay a good bit of the blame at the feet of the parent here. Many pushing their sons way to far, way to many pitches. I know that none of these coaches are intent on this but they aren't the ones who have theses kids playing for more than one squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post

    I'll always say: pitchers should sign & go pro out of high school & hitters should go to college. For most pitchers, the amount they get offered out of HS will be the most they ever see. Simply a risky position
    A scout told me this last year.

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    This is what its like being a State fan. Dead injuns shaking down Starkvegas poltergeist style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I'm no expert but the biggest problem I see is way to much "travel ball" for pitchers. They pitch all year long now days and it starts way before they are developed in the muscle structure.
    In some cases this is true but not in the case of JT. JT was on strict pitch/inning counts since he was 10 so that's not the issue in his case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    In some cases this is true but not in the case of JT. JT was on strict pitch/inning counts since he was 10 so that's not the issue in his case.
    What about breaking pitches though? Kids used to wait until HS before the learn a curveball and now it's 12 and 13 year olds doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    What about breaking pitches though? Kids used to wait until HS before the learn a curveball and now it's 12 and 13 year olds doing it.
    He didn't throw breaking balls until hs. Threw 2 seam fastball and slip change up until then. Heck he never even threw a 4 seam until he got to State

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    In some cases this is true but not in the case of JT. JT was on strict pitch/inning counts since he was 10 so that's not the issue in his case.
    I've heard that bout him. My take isn't about him, I think having a really good trainer in the off season is more important especially for pitchers. I've seen first hand from August thru December what it has done for someone. Kid didn't throw much off the mound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    People want info. I provided it. I'm sorry you and others need a link. I'd love to be wrong..... but....
    I was not doubting you Home, just curious if anything had been released was all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I've heard that bout him. My take isn't about him, I think having a really good trainer in the off season is more important especially for pitchers. I've seen first hand from August thru December what it has done for someone. Kid didn't throw much off the mound.
    I agree with what you're saying, absolutely. I've never let my kids play year round and players need to not pick up a ball for at least 3-4 months a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I agree with what you're saying, absolutely. I've never let my kids play year round and players need to not pick up a ball for at least 3-4 months a year.
    Amen!

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    Hope nothing is wrong with JT. But wasn't He an elite hitter also? Maybe he can still hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I agree with what you're saying, absolutely. I've never let my kids play year round and players need to not pick up a ball for at least 3-4 months a year.
    Good luck to ur son this fall. I wish he and u the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKADogs55 View Post
    I was not doubting you Home, just curious if anything had been released was all.
    PSA... if you shorten his name, Homie is correct. ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Hope nothing is wrong with JT. But wasn't He an elite hitter also? Maybe he can still hit.
    Hell get him in the DH spot and let his arm rest.
    Downvotes_Hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Chaser View Post
    This hard for me to understand because I thought his pitching was limited throughout high school.
    Lot of studies that talk about not pitching enough, kids not playing other sports etc.
    And it's also important to understand the difference between prevention and elimination. Pitch counts and things like that help with prevention but they don't eliminate possible injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Good luck to ur son this fall. I wish he and u the best.
    Thank you so much! Appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I'm no expert but the biggest problem I see is way to much "travel ball" for pitchers. They pitch all year long now days and it starts way before they are developed in the muscle structure.
    Only at the shitty local travel route. Legit programs take care of arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Lot of studies that talk about not pitching enough, kids not playing other sports etc.
    And it's also important to understand the difference between prevention and elimination. Pitch counts and things like that help with prevention but they don't eliminate possible injuries.
    Yep, exactly! And it's true that some don't throw enough and therefore the arm isnt conditioned enough when it comes time to "stretch it out". It's a fine line between to much and not enough.
    Last edited by Commercecomet24; 02-19-2020 at 07:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    PSA... if you shorten his name, Homie is correct. ***
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