Deivon Smith

[jdelta02]

Any thoughts on this kid? He's a class of 2020 Miss. State men's basketball signee. Has led his team, Grayson HS ( Loganville GA) to #3 in ESPN's Top 25 Boys HS Rankings, and #1 in the state of Georgia. They play tomorrow in the 2020 GHSA Boys State Basketball Tourney, Class 7A.

My opinion, he"s an ultra-athletic athlete at the point guard spot. Amazing vertical, very talented playmaker that's very well coached, and doing an outstanding job of leading that team to near the top of the national rankings.

I've compared him on this board earlier to Courtney Fortson. Also, has some Dee Brown in his game.

[thf24]

No way he's any good, Howland can only recruit legacies***

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

No way he's any good, Howland can only recruit legacies***

He can recruit fine...he just can't coach them worth a f***

[Pipedream]

He can recruit fine...he just can't coach them worth a f***

For some historical perspective and projecting conservatively, Howland is on pace to have the 6th best 3 year win % in program history from 17/18-19/20 at 67%. The two best were in the late 50's/early 60's. This would be the 4th best "modern" stretch in school history and the best in 15 years.

[Ari Gold]

For some historical perspective and projecting conservatively, Howland is on pace to have the 6th best 3 year win % in program history from 17/18-19/20 at 67%. The two best were in the late 50's/early 60's. This would be the 4th best "modern" stretch in school history and the best in 15 years.

FACTS about CBH don’t fly around here.. it doesn’t fit the narrative..

[R2Dawg]

Big time player. We need to find a big now to replace Perry and later Ado.

[msstate7]

Big time player. We need to find a big now to replace Perry and later Ado.

Need Woodard back first of all. Hopefully out of king, Smith, post, and oduro, 2 of them take a big step forward. If we can get nick back to go with Stewart, Molinar, and Smith, we have some potential difference makers at guard

[Pipedream]

Need Woodard back first of all. Hopefully out of king, Smith, post, and oduro, 2 of them take a big step forward. If we can get nick back to go with Stewart, Molinar, and Smith, we have some potential difference makers at guard

This is why the "fire Howland" crowd is so dumb. The team next year could be better than this one, if Woodard comes back, which I think is the smart play for him as he needs to develop his ball handling more. Nick in his second year as a full time PG backed up by Devion Smith who is a top 50 national player. A fully formed DJ Stewart, who has made a huge jump this year, backed up by a promising Iverson Molinar. Woodard and Elias King (a top 120 player in 2019 class) at SF. They're pretty high on Tolu Smith at PF and you bring back Ado and Oduro at center. We are a little light on high quality post players, but if Tolu is as good as some talk him up, we'll be fine. He's not going to be Perry good, but he can play. Then there is Post who is a wild card IMO, but some people think he'll contribute next year. Definitely a deeper team. Not as long, but being better and deeper in the back court will allow us to be more functional. The college game really is dictated by guard play. Great thing is Stewart is big enough to play the 3, so you could get Spoon/Molinar/Stewart/Woodard+ Ado or Tolu on the court and be super athletic. We'll also be a much better perimeter shooting team next year.

[WSOPdawg]

This is why the "fire Howland" crowd is so dumb. The team next year could be better than this one, if Woodard comes back, which I think is the smart play for him as he needs to develop his ball handling more. Nick in his second year as a full time PG backed up by Devion Smith who is a top 50 national player. A fully formed DJ Stewart, who has made a huge jump this year, backed up by a promising Iverson Molinar. Woodard and Elias King (a top 120 player in 2019 class) at SF. They're pretty high on Tolu Smith at PF and you bring back Ado and Oduro at center. We are a little light on high quality post players, but if Tolu is as good as some talk him up, we'll be fine. He's not going to be Perry good, but he can play. Then there is Post who is a wild card IMO, but some people think he'll contribute next year. Definitely a deeper team. Not as long, but being better and deeper in the back court will allow us to be more functional. The college game really is dictated by guard play. Great thing is Stewart is big enough to play the 3, so you could get Spoon/Molinar/Stewart/Woodard+ Ado or Tolu on the court and be super athletic. We'll also be a much better perimeter shooting team next year.

Rep given

[Johnson85]

This is why the "fire Howland" crowd is so dumb. The team next year could be better than this one, if Woodard comes back, which I think is the smart play for him as he needs to develop his ball handling more. Nick in his second year as a full time PG backed up by Devion Smith who is a top 50 national player. A fully formed DJ Stewart, who has made a huge jump this year, backed up by a promising Iverson Molinar. Woodard and Elias King (a top 120 player in 2019 class) at SF. They're pretty high on Tolu Smith at PF and you bring back Ado and Oduro at center. We are a little light on high quality post players, but if Tolu is as good as some talk him up, we'll be fine. He's not going to be Perry good, but he can play. Then there is Post who is a wild card IMO, but some people think he'll contribute next year. Definitely a deeper team. Not as long, but being better and deeper in the back court will allow us to be more functional. The college game really is dictated by guard play. Great thing is Stewart is big enough to play the 3, so you could get Spoon/Molinar/Stewart/Woodard+ Ado or Tolu on the court and be super athletic. We'll also be a much better perimeter shooting team next year.

The fire Howland crowd is dumb regardless of whether next year's team will be better or not.

[Joebob]

The fire Howland crowd is dumb regardless of whether next year's team will be better or not.

Good lord man, Howland can’t coach! What’s it going to take for you guys to realize this? Have you ever watched a team that’s well coached? Howland’s teams exhibit none of those characteristics. Yes they’re talented, but so what? We’ve been hearing about their talent for five years. They underachieve every year, and guys like you keep sticking your head in the sand about it.

[Pipedream]

Good lord man, Howland can?t coach! What?s it going to take for you guys to realize this? Have you ever watched a team that?s well coached? Howland?s teams exhibit none of those characteristics. Yes they?re talented, but so what? We?ve been hearing about their talent for five years. They underachieve every year, and guys like you keep sticking your head in the sand about it.

I know everyone has stupid fans on the internet, but shit this is on the Mt. Rushmore of stupid takes. State fans in general are dumb as hell about basketball.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Good lord man, Howland can?t coach! What?s it going to take for you guys to realize this? Have you ever watched a team that?s well coached? Howland?s teams exhibit none of those characteristics. Yes they?re talented, but so what? We?ve been hearing about their talent for five years. They underachieve every year, and guys like you keep sticking your head in the sand about it.

Yep!!! We have enough talent on this team to be 1st in the SEC this year and here we are f***ing struggling to make the damn tournament

[Johnson85]

Good lord man, Howland can’t coach! What’s it going to take for you guys to realize this? Have you ever watched a team that’s well coached? Howland’s teams exhibit none of those characteristics. Yes they’re talented, but so what? We’ve been hearing about their talent for five years. They underachieve every year, and guys like you keep sticking your head in the sand about it.

The guy that went to back to three consecutive final fours can't coach? The guy that won the Pac12 four times in ten years? And finished second another two times?

Our team does some things well and other things poorly. Some of that is that the game has changed, some of that is that our natural recruiting area doesn't produce a lot of polished talent, some of that is probably that Howland doesn't have a slate of assistant coaches that are particularly good at the teaching/coaching part.

But even taking your opinion as true, it's still dumb to think firing Howland is a good idea right now. We are not a super desirable job in basketball. Certainly a good job, but not one that a lot of hot up and comers are going to jump at. Anybody that can keep us on the bubble consistently without embarrassing off the court incidents is somebody we shouldn't fire. That's certainly not our ceiling, but it's good enough that we are likely to downgrade if we fire our coach and take a flyer on a new coach.

[preachermatt83]

The fire Howland crowd is dumb regardless of whether next year's team will be better or not.

This all day

[confucius say]

Must be Brad Smith's kid

[OLJWales]

What about the big German dude?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Any thoughts on this kid? He's a class of 2020 Miss. State men's basketball signee. Has led his team, Grayson HS ( Loganville GA) to #3 in ESPN's Top 25 Boys HS Rankings, and #1 in the state of Georgia. They play tomorrow in the 2020 GHSA Boys State Basketball Tourney, Class 7A.

My opinion, he"s an ultra-athletic athlete at the point guard spot. Amazing vertical, very talented playmaker that's very well coached, and doing an outstanding job of leading that team to near the top of the national rankings.

I've compared him on this board earlier to Courtney Fortson. Also, has some Dee Brown in his game.

If he was 6'2" instead of 5'11" he'd be a top 15-20 player. He'll be the 1st PG Howland has brought in who won't have to learn how to distribute.

[confucius say]

If he was 6'2" instead of 5'11" he'd be a top 15-20 player. He'll be the 1st PG Howland has brought in who won't have to learn how to distribute.

Uh, did you even Lamar Peters bro**

[KentuckyDawg13]

It took Peters some time not to be a score first guard. And he still has a hard time with that mindset.