2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

[Todd4State]

We gonna drop Greek?

Wouldn't bother me.

[Todd4State]

Indeed. This staff is recruiting better than I think anyone could've imagined.

Yes! They have been a lot better than I anticipated.

Of course Dan was pretty bad.

[KOdawg1]

Wouldn't bother me.

Oh me either. We already have a highly rated guy from TX that can help pull some of their WRs, so I'd love for us to get Keyes too so that he can help with some of the in-state receivers. I know he's tight with some of them.

[ShotgunDawg]

Oh me either. We already have a highly rated guy from TX that can help pull some of their WRs, so I'd love for us to get Keyes too so that he can help with some of the in-state receivers. I know he's tight with some of them.

As long as it doesn't effect Robertson I'm good with it.

Also would say something about Key's willingness to compete.

This would be wild if we got Keys as well. Just absolutely wild to have type of QB competition on campus

And for Keys, I does kind of make some sense. Even if you aren't the #1 QB in the class, you get to go to the school you wanted to &, if Leach really is the best QB developer possibly in the history of college football, then go be developed by him for a few years, see where things stand, & then if you need to transfer, after being coached by Leach for 2/3 years, I'm sure you'll have plenty of options.

[Todd4State]

As long as it doesn't effect Robertson I'm good with it.

Also would say something about Key's willingness to compete.

This would be wild if we got Keys as well. Just absolutely wild to have type of QB competition on campus

And for Keys, I does kind of make some sense. Even if you aren't the #1 QB in the class, you get to go to the school you wanted to &, if Leach really is the best QB developer possibly in the history of college football, then go be developed by him for a few years, see where things stand, & then if you need to transfer, after being coached by Leach for 2/3 years, I'm sure you'll have plenty of options.

I don't see why it would. Leach likes to use experienced QB's. Redshirt Keys and play Sawyer and let both develop.

Leach doesn't like to play QB's before their junior year.

[Todd4State]

Oh me either. We already have a highly rated guy from TX that can help pull some of their WRs, so I'd love for us to get Keyes too so that he can help with some of the in-state receivers. I know he's tight with some of them.

I think our philosophy needs to be to see what's in Mississippi recruit those best players. And then fill in the holes with out of state players. Like d-line this year.

Mississippi is a small state but has a lot of football talent and athleticism that can be developed. But because it's small what we produce at position groups is inconsistent. You may have a bunch of WR's one year and then not very many for two.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't see why it would. Leach likes to use experienced QB's. Redshirt Keys and play Sawyer and let both develop.

Leach doesn't like to play QB's before their junior year.

How you handle that situation will likely depend on what becomes of Garrett Shrader.

Does he thrive in Leach's system?

Does he transfer?

If Shrader thrives, then you've got a back log of Shrader, Roberts, Robertson, Keys, Vandy QB transfer, & maybe Greek.

That too many guys.

If Shrader transfers, then that really opens up the competition.

[Tripp McNeely]

How you handle that situation will likely depend on what becomes of Garrett Shrader.

Does he thrive in Leach's system?

Does he transfer?

If Shrader thrives, then you've got a back log of Shrader, Roberts, Robertson, Keys, Vandy QB transfer, & maybe Greek.

That too many guys.

If Shrader transfers, then that really opens up the competition.

AMAZING ?problem? to have!!!

[ShotgunDawg]

I think our philosophy needs to be to see what's in Mississippi recruit those best players. And then fill in the holes with out of state players. Like d-line this year.

Mississippi is a small state but has a lot of football talent and athleticism that can be developed. But because it's small what we produce at position groups is inconsistent. You may have a bunch of WR's one year and then not very many for two.

I hear you, but Mississippi has never consistently produced great WRs & QBs.

You can't win big in the SEC by prioritizing Mississippi at those positions. You can't pass on Robertson ever.

Robertson may be a better pure passer than anyone Mississippi produced Romero Miller or Fant. You can't pass on that.

[msu15]

When it comes to QB's, whatever Leach wants to do I'm on board, even if it meant something crazy like signing 3 high school QB's in the same class. He is the pirate after aaarrggh.

[KOdawg1]

This offensive system will recruit itself. QBs and WRs will be drawn to it. How we recruit defensively will determine how successful we are. Leach and Co. haven't fared so well in that area in the past, but he was in Lubbock, Texas (where he had a couple of good defenses) and Pullman (which is.. well in the middle of nowhere). Being in the southeast will give him access to the best athletes in the country. I just hope we can continue our success on the defensive line. We need a Nathan Pickering every year or so.

[KOdawg1]

How you handle that situation will likely depend on what becomes of Garrett Shrader.

Does he thrive in Leach's system?

Does he transfer?

If Shrader thrives, then you've got a back log of Shrader, Roberts, Robertson, Keys, Vandy QB transfer, & maybe Greek.

That too many guys.

If Shrader transfers, then that really opens up the competition.

I think Shrader ends up transferring eventually. That QB room is getting crowded very quickly.

[Todd4State]

I hear you, but Mississippi has never consistently produced great WRs & QBs.

You can't win big in the SEC by prioritizing Mississippi at those positions. You can't pass on Robertson ever.

Robertson may be a better pure passer than anyone Mississippi produced Romero Miller or Fant. You can't pass on that.

Never?

Rice, Moulds, Bumphis, AJ Brown, Metcalf...

[Todd4State]

I think Shrader ends up transferring eventually. That QB room is getting crowded very quickly.

I think he may fit Leach's system well. Like I said Leach likes veterans and I think Shrader has a decent football IQ and a good arm. He's also fairly accurate.

[Hambone]

Honest question... if the system is so easy to learn, why does it take the qb until his junior year to run it? (Well, Leach’s preference)

Not being negative what so ever.

[Todd4State]

Honest question... if the system is so easy to learn, why does it take the qb until his junior year to run it? (Well, Leach’s preference)

Not being negative what so ever.

I don't think it's a "not knowing the offense" thing as much as it is a maturity thing. It's one thing to know the playbook and it's another to "hey I can the the ball across my body in the middle of the field and complete it against Alabama because I did it to Madison Central when I was in high school."

[NCDawg]

I think he may fit Leach's system well. Like I said Leach likes veterans and I think Shrader has a decent football IQ and a good arm. He's also fairly accurate.

I agree. I think Shrader is a good QB and will do well under Leach.

[ZedFedder]

What’s the percentage we get Keyes right now?

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree. I think Shrader is a good QB and will do well under Leach.

I agree

However, one thing is for sure though... He's going to have to beat out some ballers to play

[ShotgunDawg]

Never?

Rice, Moulds, Bumphis, AJ Brown, Metcalf...

Maybe I used the wrong word in "Great"

The state doesn't produce enough polish on a consistent basis.

Too many Stone hands types lack the polish to be consistent.

Texas produce those guys in droves.

We have to spread around our WR recruiting with the right mix of polish & upside.