Page 67 of 136 FirstFirst ... 1757656667686977117 ... LastLast
Results 1,321 to 1,340 of 2710

Thread: 2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

  1. #1321
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I think the Deion ship has sailed.

    Moore should be a 4 star. He's a game-changer.

    I want to see us go out and get a grad transfer WR, but if we have a spot for a HS one, I'd like us to consider Antonio Harmon. His speed isn't going to blow you away, but he's got a big frame and would be a physical force in the red zone. I know Leach prefers the shifty, quick WRs, but Harmon is a good players that's just sitting out there.
    I think the Deion ship has likely sailed as well, but that doesn't mean we can't get back into it. Hopefully we figure something out.

    Harmon doesn't fit this offense in any way. We need quick guys, not big guys.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  2. #1322
    Senior Member KOdawg1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    10,786
    vCash
    966500
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post

    Harmon doesn't fit this offense in any way. We need quick guys, not big guys.
    Disagree. I think the majority of your guys need to be quick. Every coach in America will tell you they want "quick" guys. But I think there's a place in this offense for a possession WR that you can throw 50/50 balls to and can use his body to shield defenders off for short yards. I don't agree that Harmon couldn't fit this offense. I'm aware that Leach hasn't typically used these guys, but this is an adaptation he could make.
    Last edited by KOdawg1; 11-17-2020 at 12:20 PM.

  3. #1323
    Senior Member FISHDAWG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Cookeville, TN
    Posts
    5,342
    vCash
    2076120
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I think the Deion ship has likely sailed as well, but that doesn't mean we can't get back into it. Hopefully we figure something out.

    Harmon doesn't fit this offense in any way. We need quick guys, not big guys.
    I wouldn't mind a big tight end type receiver ... one who a safety or linebacker can't tear the ball away from ....or a bigger body to catch that 4 yard pass in front of waiting linebackers. Hell, I wished we would go back to a conventional tight end
    OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
    The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.

  4. #1324
    Senior Member msu15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    MS
    Posts
    1,888
    vCash
    1053100
    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    I wouldn't mind a big tight end type receiver ... one who a safety or linebacker can't tear the ball away from ....or a bigger body to catch that 4 yard pass in front of waiting linebackers. Hell, I wished we would go back to a conventional tight end
    I miss tight ends and fullbacks
    "We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.

  5. #1325
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    490
    vCash
    3200
    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    I miss tight ends and fullbacks
    I miss a running game!

  6. #1326
    Senior Member FISHDAWG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Cookeville, TN
    Posts
    5,342
    vCash
    2076120
    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    I miss tight ends and fullbacks
    lol ... I do too but even Mullen used a full back in only his first year ... We used to get a lot of production from the tight end and I think it would slow some LB's down - at the very least it would probably bring opposing defenses up to at least 4 linemen and possibly change some of the zone coverage a little
    OXFORD, Miss. (WTVA) - Ole Miss campus police ask students to behave at future baseball games following a recent incident.
    The university said students were reportedly throwing rocks at Georgia baseball players during last weekend's series.

  7. #1327
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    40,214
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I think the Deion ship has sailed.

    Moore should be a 4 star. He's a game-changer.

    I want to see us go out and get a grad transfer WR, but if we have a spot for a HS one, I'd like us to consider Antonio Harmon. His speed isn't going to blow you away, but he's got a big frame and would be a physical force in the red zone. I know Leach prefers the shifty, quick WRs, but Harmon is a good players that's just sitting out there.
    I think we sort of agree. I'd like to keep Nabors and the guys we currently have and add Keon Coleman. If we get a grad transfer it needs to be a true slot guy like a Jameon Lewis.

  8. #1328
    Senior Member Cooterpoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    11,578
    vCash
    52714
    We have no interest in Harmon. Harmon was overrated. Grew into a TE.

  9. #1329
    Senior Member KOdawg1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    10,786
    vCash
    966500
    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We have no interest in Harmon. Harmon was overrated. Grew into a TE.
    We're still in contact with him so "no interest" is incorrect. He's not high-priority, but you don't stay in contact with guys you have no interest in. I will agree that he was overrated initially. He was getting comps to DK Metcalf which was just really unfair to him. He's not close to the physical freak DK is.

  10. #1330
    Senior Member msu15's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    MS
    Posts
    1,888
    vCash
    1053100
    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    lol ... I do too but even Mullen used a full back in only his first year ... We used to get a lot of production from the tight end and I think it would slow some LB's down - at the very least it would probably bring opposing defenses up to at least 4 linemen and possibly change some of the zone coverage a little
    I hear you but he used fullbacks through the 2012(year 4 season). Patrick Hanrahan a lot in 2009 and 10, Sylvester Hemphill and Adrian Marcus platoon in 2011 and 12.
    "We will have no problem in handling Kentucky."-Turfdawg67. MSU suffered a 27-17 defeat in 2022 with 225 yards in total offense.

  11. #1331
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    40,214
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    I hear you but he used fullbacks through the 2012(year 4 season). Patrick Hanrahan a lot in 2009 and 10, Sylvester Hemphill and Adrian Marcus platoon in 2011 and 12.
    I really have no idea why he went 100% away from it. You would think it would be easy to find some kid in Mississippi that grew up a MSU fan that would be willing to walk-on and fill the spot and do a decent job.

  12. #1332
    Senior Member BrunswickDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Home of Slay, GA
    Posts
    11,917
    vCash
    1746501
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I really have no idea why he went 100% away from it. You would think it would be easy to find some kid in Mississippi that grew up a MSU fan that would be willing to walk-on and fill the spot and do a decent job.
    Or flex a TE or big WR like Malcolm Johnson into that spot for a couple of plays. I mention Johnson specifically because he played FB for Cleveland for 2 seasons.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
    - Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18

  13. #1333
    Senior Member Hambone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    NW MS
    Posts
    1,735
    vCash
    105736
    Brandan Toles has decommitted

  14. #1334
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,098
    vCash
    3200
    That one has seemed to catch the 24/7 guys totally off guard although. The first reaction would be an OM offer (since he's from Oxford) but they're saying that's not the case. ARK and Auburn have made a habit of screwing with our CB board last minute the past few years so I could see one of them with a late offer. FSU pokes around MS a good bit lately or my crazy guess is Freeze is already starting to do some recruiting from wherever he's headed.

  15. #1335
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    My guess is that with Toles, it's that time of year, with the December signing period, where coaches have to make real decisions on whether or not they want to sign a player early.

    With the transfer portal, you simply can't take the same developmental players you have in the past when you could use that spot for an immediate contributor out of the portal.

    As more guys declare for the transfer portal, our options are becoming more clear & room much be made.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  16. #1336
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    4,098
    vCash
    3200
    The rumor was early though that the staff really liked him and thought he was really underrated by the services. Maybe something changed, maybe it didn't. Almost nothing surprises me at this point.

  17. #1337
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,276
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    The rumor was early though that the staff really liked him and thought he was really underrated by the services. Maybe something changed, maybe it didn't. Almost nothing surprises me at this point.
    That was before SR film or maybe the coaches believe they can get a kid that is better.

    Maybe it isn't that they didn't like Toles but rather they like someone else better.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  18. #1338
    Senior Member msbulldog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    W. Monroe, LA
    Posts
    7,429
    vCash
    1089576
    We don't need to be dropping Mississippi kids, if that's what happened, burned bridges.
    Praise The Lord and Go Dawgs!!!

  19. #1339
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    40,214
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    We don't need to be dropping Mississippi kids, if that's what happened, burned bridges.
    Based on the tweet I don't think that's the case because he said he discussed it with his family.

  20. #1340
    Senior Member Cooterpoot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    11,578
    vCash
    52714
    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    We don't need to be dropping Mississippi kids, if that's what happened, burned bridges.
    Meh, if they aren't good enough there's no issue. We found a better player.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.