2021 MSU Football Recruiting Discussion Thread

[Todd4State]

It just seems like we always have room, no matter what we do.

Yeah- we basically put ourselves on probation under Dan.

At least I feel like Leach is trying to fill holes.

[Todd4State]

McBath, Washington, and Hughes- yeah I said Hughes- need to land some guys this next cycle. From high school.

[maroonmania]

And then it doesn't help when you have MSU alumni acting like their degree is a GED certificate.

I've worked with Northwestern grads and we both made the same salary and they never looked down on my Mississippi education.

I agree, a degree from a particular school can help open a few more doors right out of school, but after that, your own merits mean a heck of lot more than what your diploma says as long as you do have the required degree. In fact, if I was going to plan to live in the Southeast near family, I would probably rather have a degree from a university in this area. But, if you are open to anywhere then a degree from a high prestige school will definitely help. But, either way, MSU fans do indeed seem to be some of the best at helping recruit coaches and players away from MSU if they have any other opportunities.

[maroonmania]

And Northwestern owns us in football as well.

Owns us? I hope you are joking. We've only played NW once in our entire history of football.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Looks like we are going to miss on all of our last DB targets. I guess we can just pocket until after spring and try and nab a transfer

[confucius say]

Is he coming to State? I saw where he shut everything down

Not sure. He is supposed to announce today though.

[Cooterpoot]

Amen. We just signed a 5 star corner and I can?t recall that ever happening and guys are questioning that. I give the coaches credit. They have filled gaps. I wish we could sign or get a transfer ILB.

No we didn't. He's a safety in our scheme. And he's only started 8 games in 3 years. He's no 5 star based on his performance. We'll have to see how he pans out. He's certainly better than what we put out there last year.
But, we missed on every HS DB recruit. We won one battle instate and that was Lewis. Cooper should be the 2nd.
Our top recruits were all guys Leach was on at WSU minus a couple. This staff has got to win recruiting battles in MS. It's a big year. Can't lose all the talent.

[BrunswickDawg]

No we didn't. He's a safety. And he's only started 8 games in 3 years. He's no 5 star. We'll have to see how he pans out. He's certainly better than what we put out there last year.

In '18 he only played 2 games - so he redshirted. In '19, Texas has him listed in their team stats as CB, and he started at CB in 7 games. He got beat out by Thompson & Jamison this year - and only started 1 game but played in 9 total.
He also seems to be pretty versatile - https://247sports.com/college/texas/...ver-157733998/

Sounds like a pretty good fit for our D.

[sandwolf]

...so unless he just didn't want the military obligation that comes along with that...

I am guessing that this is the case. Given the choice, I think most people would choose the elite education that did not include the military obligation.

[bulldawg28]

No we didn't. He's a safety in our scheme. And he's only started 8 games in 3 years. He's no 5 star based on his performance. We'll have to see how he pans out. He's certainly better than what we put out there last year.
But, we missed on every HS DB recruit. We won one battle instate and that was Lewis. Cooper should be the 2nd.
Our top recruits were all guys Leach was on at WSU minus a couple. This staff has got to win recruiting battles in MS. It's a big year. Can't lose all the talent.

I agree that we can't lose the majority of the talent in our home state. But when was the last time that happened, 20 years ago? Losing a few players we wanted isn't losing the state. I also know it's harder to get on the field at Texas vs Mississippi state. Little playing time doesn't reflect talent it's just better talent is in front of you. Heck, every healthy Alabama and LSU transfer we have played last year. Were they terrible too at their 1st school? Or are those schools just loaded?

[HancockCountyDog]

If y'all think you are pissed - you should hear AU people.

They are furious with recruiting.

Stealing some recruit away from South Alabama at the last minute? They can't see straight they are so pissed off.

[msstate7]

If y'all think you are pissed - you should hear AU people.

They are furious with recruiting.

Stealing some recruit away from South Alabama at the last minute? They can't see straight they are so pissed off.

Should we, OM, ark, tenn, etc be worried about any of our guys? If auburn gets desperate, who knows what they do?

[Hot Rock]

I don't even understand people pissed off at State's recruiting. It's been pretty darn good. They are in the top 30 in recruiting rankings, plus three big time transfer portal guys.

The portal brought us a WR, DB and DL all of which should see playing time even if they don't start next year. Then some depth at the QB position with about 4 guys that aren't even on scholarship right? None of that even counts toward recruiting rank.

By the time this roster is done for 2021, it won't have 2 four star dual threat QB's sitting on the bench that never play. The the average player's rating on the field will be improved. It's not just roster talent but roster talent that sees the field.

I would think that's what one would hope to see. Now lets see a strong finish to this class off with another good player or two and get these guys another year older, stronger and faster. Then some spring training to elevate the execution and evaluation of what is there.

I am looking forward to what Leach can do with a full year of training and not having to install the basics to everyone.

[maroonmania]

I don't even understand people pissed off at State's recruiting. It's been pretty darn good. They are in the top 30 in recruiting rankings, plus three big time transfer portal guys.

The portal brought us a WR, DB and DL all of which should see playing time even if they don't start next year. Then some depth at the QB position with about 4 guys that aren't even on scholarship right? None of that even counts toward recruiting rank.

By the time this roster is done for 2021, it won't have 2 four star dual threat QB's sitting on the bench that never play. The the average player's rating on the field will be improved. It's not just roster talent but roster talent that sees the field.

I would think that's what one would hope to see. Now lets see a strong finish to this class off with another good player or two and get these guys another year older, stronger and faster. Then some spring training to elevate the execution and evaluation of what is there.

I am looking forward to what Leach can do with a full year of training and not having to install the basics to everyone.

I don't think anyone is pissed off, at least I hope not. DB recruiting was really bad and we didn't get a true MLB but overall this is a pretty good class and should finish around where we normally do rankings wise (mid 20s). If Strong and Daniels were actually in the class it would have been above what we usually do. I do feel Arnett will put a quality defense on the field with whatever he has while he is here, however long that ends up being. We certainly upgraded most of the offensive skill positions and got numbers for the OL.

[Dogbone]

Are we waiting on someone to sign today?

[msbulldog]

Brandon Cunningham is transferring.

[HancockCountyDog]

Should we, OM, ark, tenn, etc be worried about any of our guys? If auburn gets desperate, who knows what they do?

Most of our guys have already signed - maybe for the next recruiting cycle, but honestly AU fired a lot of their elite recruiters. They can become Arkansas very quickly.

[confucius say]

Tony Hughes primary value is him being in the living room. He couldn't do that this year.

[Jarius]

I don't even understand people pissed off at State's recruiting. It's been pretty darn good. They are in the top 30 in recruiting rankings, plus three big time transfer portal guys.

The portal brought us a WR, DB and DL all of which should see playing time even if they don't start next year. Then some depth at the QB position with about 4 guys that aren't even on scholarship right? None of that even counts toward recruiting rank.

By the time this roster is done for 2021, it won't have 2 four star dual threat QB's sitting on the bench that never play. The the average player's rating on the field will be improved. It's not just roster talent but roster talent that sees the field.

I would think that's what one would hope to see. Now lets see a strong finish to this class off with another good player or two and get these guys another year older, stronger and faster. Then some spring training to elevate the execution and evaluation of what is there.

I am looking forward to what Leach can do with a full year of training and not having to install the basics to everyone.

Most people upset about Leach’s overall recruiting class are people who hate him because of who he supports politically. Those people have found and will continue to find reasons to dislike Leach. He will be held to a standard that is unattainable by them until he leaves because they are assholes that are blinded by hate.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Brandon Cunningham is transferring.

Another one who was not going to see the field anytime soon...