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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I don't hate the decision because I really like the kids film, but I would've used the spot on a Juco DE. We're gonna be fine at WR. We need some help at DE. Hopefully we get a good grad transfer.
    Not disagreeing, but we don't know what the staff knows.

    This is a very experienced staff & Leach has been doing this for a long time. I'm going to trust his evaluations unless he proves I shouldn't.
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    https://www.hudl.com/video/3/1063249...979c0880569355

    Here's his film. Like gun said, he's very smooth in his movement. Good hands. Decent size. Decent speed. His route running needs some work. All he does in this video is run a fly, a screen, or a quick out. He won't come in next year and play, but he's a guy that can be pretty good after a couple of years of good coaching and a weight room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    https://www.hudl.com/video/3/1063249...979c0880569355

    Here's his film. Like gun said, he's very smooth in his movement. Good hands. Decent size. Decent speed. His route running needs some work. All he does in this video is run a fly, a screen, or a quick out. He won't come in next year and play, but he's a guy that can be pretty good after a couple of years of good coaching and a weight room.
    I disagree about how quickly he can play. His body control is really really good & that should allow for good route running quickly.

    There is some similarity to how Walley looked last year. Physical tool don't show out on film, but the body control & smoothness allows for a quick transition in this offense
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    He looks ok but he doesn’t jump off as a great wr prospect to me. I don’t immediately see great speed or elusiveness and he doesn’t have above average size. He doesn’t look bad but we need to find some guys with impact upside. Price’s junior film is much better in my opinion but he’s waiting until Feb to sign he says. This may just be us taking the bird in the hand.

    Hopefully I’m wrong in my quick evaluation from 5 min of film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I disagree about how quickly he can play. His body control is really really good & that should allow for good route running quickly.

    There is some similarity to how Walley looked last year. Physical tool don't show out on film, but the body control & smoothness allows for a quick transition in this offense
    He won't play next year. He'll likely RS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    He won't play next year. He'll likely RS.
    Well, we're pretty deep at WR. I think he would've played for this year's team but you're correct. I think he takes Austin William's role in 2022
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    He looks ok but he doesn’t jump off as a great wr prospect to me. I don’t immediately see great speed or elusiveness and he doesn’t have above average size. He doesn’t look bad but we need to find some guys with impact upside. Price’s junior film is much better in my opinion but he’s waiting until Feb to sign he says. This may just be us taking the bird in the hand.

    Hopefully I’m wrong in my quick evaluation from 5 min of film.
    That's the way Walley looked last year as well.

    I don't disagree with anything you've said, but Mike Leach has been hitting on these guys for 20 years. So I'm going to go with what he thinks even if I don't totally see it.
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    Thomas is a very good route runner and catches everything. He's a good take.

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    Maybe on Walley but I remember those MS/AL 1:1 clips and he and Harvey looked like the 2 best receivers easily.

    I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt as well though at this point as Leach should know what he’s looking for

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    I have my issues with Leach, but I will trust his evaluations on WR.

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    I don't think it has anything to do with us (not that I am in the know) but Kanarius Johnson decommitted from Tulane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with us (not that I am in the know) but Kanarius Johnson decommitted from Tulane.
    We aren't recruiting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedFedder View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with us (not that I am in the know) but Kanarius Johnson decommitted from Tulane.
    His film wasn't as impressive this year. We made the right choice between him and Jacobi Moore.

    Moore deserves to be a 4 star

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    https://www.hudl.com/video/3/1063249...979c0880569355

    Here's his film. Like gun said, he's very smooth in his movement. Good hands. Decent size. Decent speed. His route running needs some work. All he does in this video is run a fly, a screen, or a quick out. He won't come in next year and play, but he's a guy that can be pretty good after a couple of years of good coaching and a weight room.
    Film reminds me of Chris Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Film reminds me of Chris Smith.
    Nice comp

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Film reminds me of Chris Smith.
    Some similarities. I think Thomas is more polished though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We aren't recruiting him.
    OM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Film reminds me of Chris Smith.
    Chris was a way bigger and more imposing, physical receiver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Chris was a way bigger and more imposing, physical receiver.
    MSU's roster lists Smith at 6'2" 210. Thomas will be about the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Chris was a way bigger and more imposing, physical receiver.
    We signed Chris Smith at 6'1, 191; Rodarius is listed at 6'1, 185

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