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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Tyler Russell and his offensive weapons that year were ranked higher individually.
    Interesting:
    2009- Russell 4*.91; Montrell Connor 4* .92; Bumphis 4* .94; Chris Smith 4* .89; Sanders 3*.88; Heavens 3* .88 = .90 avg. (.90333)
    2021 - Robertson 4* .94; Hargrove 4* .91; Knox 4* .91; Harmon 4* .91; Moore 3* .87; Price 3* .87 = .90 avg (.901667)

    I rounded up from 24/7s info. So a .905+ = .91. Not gonna rank the whole class, thought QB, RB and top 4 WR was a good comp. It also assumes we land Hargrove, since that was the original point in the conversation.
    Last edited by BrunswickDawg; 01-19-2021 at 03:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He's not 130K good. I mean, Cam Newton was 180K.
    He didn't get $130K

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Interesting:
    2009- Russell 4*.91; Montrell Connor 4* .92; Bumphis 4* .94; Chris Smith 4* .89; Sanders 3*.88; Heavens 3* .88 = .90 avg. (.90333)
    2021 - Robertson 4* .94; Hargrove 4* .91; Knox 4* .91; Harmon 4* .91; Moore 3* .87; Price 3* .87 = .90 avg (.901667)

    I rounded up from 24/7s info. So a .905+ = .91. Not gonna rank the whole class, thought QB, RB and top 4 WR was a good comp. It also assumes we land Hargrove, since that was the original point in the conversation.
    Nice analysis. Rep given. Ladarius Perkins was also in that group. They were stacked.
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-19-2021 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    He had a great showing at the all star practices/game vs good competition. He was a miss. There's no way around that and we failed to find a replacement. We literally only have one kid with the potential to be an SEC CB behind our two starters. That's why it's a big deal. Plus, he's versatile and is dragging along another really good player. But he can eat a bag a dicks for handling things like he did. 17 him!
    You think he plays CB or S?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    He didn't get $130K
    OK- 75K with the rest promised later. Hope he gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    Seems like it always is for us and therein lies our problem. We can get tons of skill players, but games are won primarily in the trenches, and we have been lacking in quality OL and DL for a long time. We get a few but not nearly enough to compete with the likes of Alabama and the other elite teams.
    Elite rated o-lineman typically go to the top 7-8 programs in the country, after that it's a developmental group with a few surprises sprinkled in spread over about 160 something programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Elite rated o-lineman typically go to the top 7-8 programs in the country, after that it's a developmental group with a few surprises sprinkled in spread over about 160 something programs.
    Our biggest issue with o-line recruiting is we were getting beat a LOT in state and then in many cases we weren't signing enough o-linemen under Hevesy.

    I like the group that we have now. They just need to develop some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    He had a great showing at the all star practices/game vs good competition. He was a miss. There's no way around that and we failed to find a replacement. We literally only have one kid with the potential to be an SEC CB behind our two starters. That's why it's a big deal. Plus, he's versatile and is dragging along another really good player. But he can eat a bag a dicks for handling things like he did. 17 him!
    I know its a miss because we didn't meet our DB needs in recruiting so far but its hard for me to consider him a real miss for us as a target. I say that because we virtually never sign a guy that basically puts himself out for auction during the process. We just aren't all in like that with a network to take care of those things. I really feel like he only committed to us to run up the price for OM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Lots of projects in that OL class.
    Well, on the bright side, there is no position in recruiting more difficult to evaluate and project than OL. Basically, unless you are getting like a Top 50 type OL prospect in the nation, its a real crapshoot to know what you've really got. So its good we at least are getting numbers to see who develops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I know its a miss because we didn't meet our DB needs in recruiting so far but its hard for me to consider him a real miss for us as a target. I say that because we virtually never sign a guy that basically puts himself out for auction during the process. We just aren't all in like that with a network to take care of those things. I really feel like he only committed to us to run up the price for OM.
    Pretty much

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    If things work out with Eddie Smith , that will be the equivalent of landing a big time juco CB..
    and we have a punchers chance with Khamauri Rogers in 2022

    And let’s not forget about Decamerion Richardson yet... redshirted last year but has a huge upside

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    Well looks like Eddie decided to not put in the extra work to try and graduate in May so he could transfer in conference and play immediately. Just saw it reported he committed to Illinois

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    Well looks like Eddie decided to not put in the extra work to try and graduate in May so he could transfer in conference and play immediately. Just saw it reported he committed to Illinois
    We REALLY need to get CJ Johnson at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post

    And let’s not forget about Decamerion Richardson yet... redshirted last year but has a huge upside
    Was the free year, not affecting eligiblity, only for seniors? Just wondering why he would redshirt if it was a free season for everyone. We obviously needed the depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCdawg View Post
    Was the free year, not affecting eligiblity, only for seniors? Just wondering why he would redshirt if it was a free season for everyone. We obviously needed the depth.
    Free year for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCdawg View Post
    Was the free year, not affecting eligiblity, only for seniors? Just wondering why he would redshirt if it was a free season for everyone. We obviously needed the depth.
    I think there is an SEC rule that would still force you sit out a year if you transfer within the SEC even if the NCAA gives everyone a one time transfer. Believe there would have to be some hardship proven to get around that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCdawg View Post
    Was the free year, not affecting eligiblity, only for seniors? Just wondering why he would redshirt if it was a free season for everyone. We obviously needed the depth.
    Because he wasn't good enough to play. He's got to take huge steps this spring/summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    Well looks like Eddie decided to not put in the extra work to try and graduate in May so he could transfer in conference and play immediately. Just saw it reported he committed to Illinois
    Didn’t want to sit a year, not going to graduate,
    Can’t really blame him.

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    For the record, the staff is very high on Hampton and he had a good all star game if my memory is correct. They dont feel like he is much different than Daniels as a CB and a lot less drama.

    They knew we were not getting Daniels way before signing day

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    And they are higher on Page than they were on Strong. I saw Strong play in person a few times and he is fast, thought he was a good player. But he hurt himself with us not the other way around

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