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NET ranking at #41
7-spot jump.
Next few games:
Tenn #63
At Kentucky #24
Vandy #163 (gross)
@ OM #107
@ ark #28
If we could go 4-1 in this stretch, we can start thinking seeding. I think it's possible too bc ark has no answer for Perry, but can't slip up vs tenn and at OM
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Let’s go beat Kentucky’s ass and put the conference on notice
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Originally Posted by
BeastMan
Let’s go beat Kentucky’s ass and put the conference on notice
If Ado and Perry can stay out of foul trouble , that game will be very interesting
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
7-spot jump.
Next few games:
Tenn #63
At Kentucky #24
Vandy #163 (gross)
@ OM #107
@ ark #28
If we could go 4-1 in this stretch, we can start thinking seeding. I think it's possible too bc ark has no answer for Perry, but can't slip up vs tenn and at OM
@OM, @Texas AM @Mizzu @USCe ... have to go 2-2 really need to go 3-1... but it’s extremely hard to win on the road in SEC play..
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Can't blow any games at this point. 3-2 is an absolute bare minimum must, 4-1 is really needed though.
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Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
If Ado and Perry can stay out of foul trouble , that game will be very interesting
I can't watch that game - we've seen it play out too many times before.....
That being said - every game on the remaining schedule is winnable. Let's make some noise.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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TeamRankings has us at 80% to make the Big Dance. Warren Nolan has us projected to go 13-5 inside the league (22-9 overall). The fan base needs drop this entitlement bullshit about the basketball team and come out and support them.
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Originally Posted by
Pipedream
TeamRankings has us at 80% to make the Big Dance. Warren Nolan has us projected to go 13-5 inside the league (22-9 overall). The fan base needs drop this entitlement bullshit about the basketball team and come out and support them.
Some can't do it because there's this preconceived notion that the women play harder than the men so that's who they're going to support.
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Its frustration with our team is understandable. We have the guys on the roster to just straight bully teams like 2018 UT. Getting it together late is still better than never. This is probably the most vulnerable UK has been to us in a while.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some can't do it because there's this preconceived notion that the women play harder than the men so that's who they're going to support.
I think those people can be classified as "morons". They think they play hard because they play well and win. They aren't intertwined. The mens game is far more competitive than womens. And I don't give a shit, womens basketball is boring as hell. No offense, I'm glad they're successful. I think Vic is a great coach and all of that, but I don't attend games because the entertainment value sucks. Just for you folks on Vics nuts, he's got the same number of national championships as Howland and one less final 4 trip.
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Originally Posted by
Pipedream
I think those people can be classified as "morons". They think they play hard because they play well and win. They aren't intertwined. The mens game is far more competitive than womens. And I don't give a shit, womens basketball is boring as hell. No offense, I'm glad they're successful. I think Vic is a great coach and all of that, but I don't attend games because the entertainment value sucks. Just for you folks on Vics nuts, he's got the same number of national championships as Howland and one less final 4 trip.
Keep in mind too that some of those same fans have a very unrealistic view of how successful we were in the 90s and 00s. Outside of 3 seasons, we are the exact same program now that we were then - a talented, inconsistent, bubble team that with the right breaks can take Kentucky to the mat one night and lose to a bad mid-major three days later. Some years that worked out for us, some it didn't. That is also what most teams in the country are that don't have Duke, Kentucky, or Kansas on the front of the jersey.
People also forget how seasons - even great seasons - can look lost until a team hits a run. 1991 we had 5 losses (3 SEC) before we beat LSU in late January and went on a run; 1996 we started out 3-4 in SEC play, then hit our stride.
That works in reverse too - in 2012 we looked like a lock at 17-4, then went 4-6 down the stretch.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some can't do it because there's this preconceived notion that the women play harder than the men so that's who they're going to support.
This x1000. These people make me so incredibly mad.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Keep in mind too that some of those same fans have a very unrealistic view of how successful we were in the 90s and 00s. Outside of 3 seasons, we are the exact same program now that we were then - a talented, inconsistent, bubble team that with the right breaks can take Kentucky to the mat one night and lose to a bad mid-major three days later. Some years that worked out for us, some it didn't. That is also what most teams in the country are that don't have Duke, Kentucky, or Kansas on the front of the jersey.
People also forget how seasons - even great seasons - can look lost until a team hits a run. 1991 we had 5 losses (3 SEC) before we beat LSU in late January and went on a run; 1996 we started out 3-4 in SEC play, then hit our stride.
That works in reverse too - in 2012 we looked like a lock at 17-4, then went 4-6 down the stretch.
A lot of people also have to realize how much better the SEC is nowadays. First off the coaching is 1000x better. We replaced Tony Barbee, Donny Tindall, John Pelphrey, and Trent Johnson with Bruce Pearl, Rick Barnes, Eric Musselman, and Will Waide. The second thing is that there's no more divisions. I think some people are trapped in an illusion that were so successful under Stansbury because of the Western Division championships he won. We got to beat up on the West most years and it would inflate our records. Those were also the games that Stans would inexplicably lose one or two of that would keep us out of the tournament or have us teetering on the bubble. Overall, this is just a much tougher league than it was 10-12 years ago. Those days you really only had to get up for 6-10 games a year in conference. Nowadays you can and will get beat any night if you don't bring your A game.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
A lot of people also have to realize how much better the SEC is nowadays. First off the coaching is 1000x better. We replaced Tony Barbee, Donny Tindall, John Pelphrey, and Trent Johnson with Bruce Pearl, Rick Barnes, Eric Musselman, and Will Waide. The second thing is that there's no more divisions. I think some people are trapped in an illusion that were so successful under Stansbury because of the Western Division championships he won. We got to beat up on the West most years and it would inflate our records. Those were also the games that Stans would inexplicably lose one or two of that would keep us out of the tournament or have us teetering on the bubble. Overall, this is just a much tougher league than it was 10-12 years ago. Those days you really only had to get up for 6-10 games a year in conference. Nowadays you can and will get beat any night if you don't bring your A game.
The early 00s were pretty stout too - with the SEC consistently getting 6 teams in every year, but I think your point is that the league is deeper now (and it is). I think people also need to look at the history of the league over the past 30 or so years too. Outside of Kentucky, no one has been able to sustain a long run of success that transitioned from 1 coach to the next. Every team has been up and down during that period - not just us.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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We got a nice win last night, but comparing this team right now to our women?s program is laughable. Vic has taken a traditional horrible SEC women?s program and made them a top 5 national program over the last 4-5 years. He ended UConns run and took us to two national titles. Howland has taken a lower mid level SEC program and made them mid level with top 20-25 talent. Vic is a much better coach than Howland and his team deserves most of the support right now. I am not saying don?t support then men and I hope I am proven wrong and we make a championship game, but I understand why fans make the women the priority.
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I can understand the frustration with the team, but where were these fans during football season this past year? 2019 football was 10x more frustrating than our men's basketball team.
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I also can't watch women's basketball. It's sooooo boring. And if I turn on a game, and beth mowins is on the call, then I'm damn sure not watching it. The men's game has so much more energy and flow to it.
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
We got a nice win last night, but comparing this team right now to our women?s program is laughable. Vic has taken a traditional horrible SEC women?s program and made them a top 5 national program over the last 4-5 years. He ended UConns run and took us to two national titles. Howland has taken a lower mid level SEC program and made them mid level with top 20-25 talent. Vic is a much better coach than Howland and his team deserves most of the support right now. I am not saying don?t support then men and I hope I am proven wrong and we make a championship game, but I understand why fans make the women the priority.
Yet that's exactly what you're doing. Comparing them. You can't compare men's and women's basketball at the college level. 25-30 teams invest anything at all in women's basketball and everyone loses money.....yes even us. Jared Benko confirmed that back in December. 100-150 teams invest HEAVILY in men's basketball and it makes money hand over foot. The competition is better and the coaching pool is deeper. And how do we know Vic is a better coach than Howland? Have we seen him coach a men's game? I haven't, but maybe I missed when he led a school to 3 straight Final 4's. I didn't miss when Howland did that.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some can't do it because there's this preconceived notion that the women play harder than the men so that's who they're going to support.
Yep, UK is ripe for our pickin this year.
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I don't think anyone is saying to support the women less. Id just like the men to get adequate support. I've always admired the fact that MSU fans were diehard supporters of their sports programs especially when they were winning. The men's team however hasn't gotten that & fans have given 100 excuses why it won't support. Just disappointed.
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