Nigel Knott Enters The Transfer Portal

[ShotgunDawg]

SMH. You can't make this up.

Who are the other leading former MS HS school kids that are the leading candidates to enter the portal sometime in the future? Alex Adams? Xavier Hill?

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[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

SMH. You can't make this up.

Who are the other leading former MS HS school kids that are the leading candidates to enter the portal sometime in the future? Alex Adams? Xavier Hill?

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McKinnley Jackson

[ShotgunDawg]

McKinnley Jackson

read something yesterday that Lane Kiffin hasn't even contacted Jackson since taking the job at Ole Miss. There be some real toxicity with that kid for Kiffin to not even call.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I bet Knott goes to OM

[ShotgunDawg]

All this tells me, yet again, that there are just too many scholarships.

When LSU is taking Xavier Hill & Alex Adams, it's senseless. Those kids will struggle to get on the field at those schools when they could be contributors at other SEC schools & thus raise the overall product the conference puts on the field.

Just completely senseless.

[preachermatt83]

These kids will learn one day maybe.

[ShotgunDawg]

These kids will learn one day maybe.

They won't ever learn. The only way to make things right is to reduce scholarships. You have to legislate things to prevent people from being stupid. You can't just hope they learn.

This will be continuous cycle until the NCAA steps in & reduces scholarships to 70-75 & thus creates a circumstance where these blue bloods aren't just meat markets that run players through the system & instead they actually have to invest in & develop the ones they do sign.

Reducing scholarships increases the importance of each signee & the demand to invest in & develop those players.

The system we have right now encourages the blue bloods to be meat markets with the front door & back door wide open. Players come in the front & don't stop until they've walked out the back. No investment in the middle unless you're a super star

[Dawgology]

They won't ever learn. The only way to make things right is to reduce scholarships. You have to legislate things to prevent people from being stupid. You can't just hope they learn.

This will be continuous cycle until the NCAA steps in & reduces scholarships to 70-75 & thus creates a circumstance where these blue bloods aren't just meat markets that run players through the system & instead they actually have to invest in & develop the ones they do sign.

Reducing scholarships increases the importance of each signee & the demand to invest in & develop those players.

The system we have right now encourages the blue bloods to be meat markets with the front door & back door wide open. Players come in the front & don't stop until they've walked out the back. No investment in the middle unless you're a super star

Yep! A lot of times both Bama and LSU will sign a 4 star from Mississippi just to keep us from having him knowing full well he will ride the pine the majority of his career. It started with Bear Bryant and continues to this day there. It's a shame.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep! A lot of times both Bama and LSU will sign a 4 star from Mississippi just to keep us from having him knowing full well he will ride the pine the majority of his career. It started with Bear Bryant and continues to this day there. It's a shame.

it's ridiculous.

Alex Adams
Xavier Hill
Nigel Knott
Scott Lashely
Eddie Smith

What kills me isn't when we lose a mid to high 4 star type player to them. Those guys like Byron Young & Brandon Turnage will likely end up playing.

It's the low 4 star, high 3 star type that makes me cringe. They kids have little to no chance at those schools are just throwing away their career & any chance of being an NFL player by going there.

At the blue bloods, those kids just get processed through the system, whereas at MSU those are the types that are developed & turned into a NFL prospects.

Just crazy that the kids can't see this & even worse that the blue bloods have enough scholarships to continually pull this stunt

[Gutter Cobreh]

They won't ever learn. The only way to make things right is to reduce scholarships. You have to legislate things to prevent people from being stupid. You can't just hope they learn.

This will be continuous cycle until the NCAA steps in & reduces scholarships to 70-75 & thus creates a circumstance where these blue bloods aren't just meat markets that run players through the system & instead they actually have to invest in & develop the ones they do sign.

Reducing scholarships increases the importance of each signee & the demand to invest in & develop those players.

The system we have right now encourages the blue bloods to be meat markets with the front door & back door wide open. Players come in the front & don't stop until they've walked out the back. No investment in the middle unless you're a super star

Don't the kids still make the decision on where to sign???

Hard to legislate something when kids have the ability to make their own choice. Wouldn't limiting scholarships ultimately cost some kids a chance????

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep! A lot of times both Bama and LSU will sign a 4 star from Mississippi just to keep us from having him knowing full well he will ride the pine the majority of his career. It started with Bear Bryant and continues to this day there. It's a shame.

FWIW, I don't think they sign them to keep us from getting them. I don't think we have anything to do with it.

I think they just have a few extra, meaningless scholarships & just take the next best player. Of which they have little plan for & don't need, but they take them because they have the extra scholly.

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't the kids still make the decision on where to sign???

Hard to legislate something when kids have the ability to make their own choice. Wouldn't limiting scholarships ultimately cost some kids a chance????

They do make a decision where to sign, but they're stupid. I'm not talking about the mid to high 4 stars. I'm talking about the low 4 to high 3 star players that are just the best available for the last few scholarships. Those kids aren't invested in & are fed lies. It consistently ends up costing them their careers.

Will limiting scholarships cost kids a chance? No. There is a way to do it where you redistribute the scholarships to other sports or you raise scholarship levels at the D2 levels to compensate for the loss of scholarships at the D1 level. If D2 schools can now sign 85 players, then you allow them to sign 90 or so. Perhaps power 5 schools with the huge TV contract, pitch in some funding to help the D2 schools pay for it.

There are ways to allocate the schollies so that no kid is losing a chance. What you are doing though is increasing the parity at the D1 level, which will lead to better games, better ratings, more money, & more overall interest in the sport, which is good for everyone.

[parabrave]

it's ridiculous.

Alex Adams
Xavier Hill
Nigel Knott
Scott Lashely
Eddie Smith

What kills me isn't when we lose a mid to high 4 star type player to them. Those guys like Byron Young & Brandon Turnage will likely end up playing.

It's the low 4 star, high 3 star type that makes me cringe. They kids have little to no chance at those schools are just throwing away their career & any chance of being an NFL player by going there.

At the blue bloods, those kids just get processed through the system, whereas at MSU those are the types that are developed & turned into a NFL prospects.

Just crazy that the kids can't see this & even worse that the blue bloods have enough scholarships to continually pull this stunt

Don't forget the "running Back" from Brookhaven. He only played one play his entire career over there.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

nm

[ShotgunDawg]

Don't forget the "running Back" from Brookhaven. He only played one play his entire career over there.

No doubt. I was just listing the current act of characters.

[Gutter Cobreh]

They do make a decision where to sign, but they're stupid. I'm not talking about the mid to high 4 stars. I'm talking about the low 4 to high 3 star players that are just the best available for the last few scholarships. Those kids aren't invested in & are fed lies. It consistently ends up costing them their careers.

Will limiting scholarships cost kids a chance? No. There is a way to do it where you redistribute the scholarships to other sports or you raise scholarship levels at the D2 levels to compensate for he loss of scholarships at the D1 level. If D2 schools can now sign 85 players, then you allow them to sign 90 or so. Perhaps power 5 schools with the huge TV contract, pitch in some funding to help the D2 schools pay for it.

There are ways to allocate the schollies so that no kid is losing a chance. What you are doing though is increasing the parity at the D1 level, which will lead to better games, better ratings, & more overall interest in the sport

Are you trying to redistribute wealth? Why should we give Jackson State or Alcorn any money just to help them fund their football program? And we're doing this because 18 year olds are stupid and are committing to playing football at schools where they may or may not have a chance to play?

Lashley is coming here with a degree from Alabama? Are you telling him that his time spent there was worthless because his playing time in football was limited, or was it worth it because he got essentially a free undergraduate education?

[ShotgunDawg]

You guys can't just list the kids who didn't produce.

Raekwon Davis Bama
Cam Akers FSU
Saahdiq Charles LSU

Nakobe Dean UGA Byron Young Bama & Derrick Hall Auburn all got quality snaps as True Freshmen.

It sucks when they leave but y'all have to do a better job of acting like every kid who left MS made a mistake. There are some that did & some who didn't. No different than the kids who stayed instate & didn't produce.

the mid to high 4 stars are different.

All the ones you listed are those except Charles & Hall & we'll see if Hall is recruited over.

The mid to high 4 & 5 stars are invested in & didn't receive one of the last scholarships with little to no plan for his development.

Reminds me of a story where Bama tried to keep Jonathan Abram from signing with MSU.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

the mid to high 4 stars are different.

All the ones you listed are those except Charles & Hall & we'll see if Hall is recruited over.

The mid to high 4 & 5 stars are invested in & didn't receive one of the last scholarships with little to no plan for his development.

Reminds me of a story where Bama tried to keep Jonathan Abram from signing with MSU.

You're 1 of the loudest & leading proponents of MSU being bigger & better than what they are. We have to start thinking of ourselves on another level & stop being satisfied with just being mediocre. Isn't this the exact opposite thing you're telling these kids. Don't reach to be the best at Bama or LSU but stay at MSU or OM because it's easier to get p/t?

[dawgs]

FWIW, I don't think they sign them to keep us from getting them. I don't think we have anything to do with it.

I think they just have a few extra, meaningless scholarships & just take the next best player. Of which they have little plan for & don't need, but they take them because they have the extra scholly.

Yep, it's a lottery ticket. There's usually 1-2 low 4*/3* signees that do end up studs for bama/LSU type programs too, but the vast majority wash out and get processed after a couple years. They have the space, so of course take a few guys that have holes in their game and see if you get lucky.

[ShotgunDawg]

Are you trying to redistribute wealth? Why should we give Jackson State or Alcorn any money just to help them fund their football program? And we're doing this because 18 year olds are stupid and are committing to playing football at schools where they may or may not have a chance to play?

Lashley is coming here with a degree from Alabama? Are you telling him that his time spent there was worthless because his playing time in football was limited, or was it worth it because he got essentially a free undergraduate education?

- I'm trying to make the overall sport better like the pro leagues have done. Parity makes more money & creates more interest.
- We should give Jackson State & Alcorn some money to fund their programs if the reason for that is because it helps MSU compete at a more national level. The parity created by less scholarships would more than pay for whatever you offer D2 schools to help them pay for scholarships.
- We're doing this because it makes the sport better & offers talented kids a better path of development & playing time.
- I'm saying that Lashely could've had an MSU degree as well while playing more, with a better chance of being an NFL player, while also helping to close the gap between the blue bloods & others in their conferences