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    How Many Games Can Leach Win Next Year with This Offense?

    QB - Costello

    RB - Hill

    WR - Mitchell

    WR - Heath

    WR - Payton

    WR - Tabor/Tulu

    WR - Williams

    LT - Cross/Eiland

    LG - Parker/Smith

    C - Sharp/Smith

    OL - Reese/Pendley

    RT - Lashley/ Dolla Bill

    If the WRs can just run Leach's offense & catch the ball, there's a ton of talent on this offense. That OL may be the most talented Leach has ever coached

    I love that our first 5 games aren't our toughest. Gives this team a great chance to get in a groove before playing the big boys.

    If the WRs improve, which we expect to some degree due to Leach, & the defense is average, this offense can win at least 8 games.
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    I honestly think we can win 7 with 8 being realistic possible on how a few of our tougher conference opponents look like TAMU and Auburn.

    I'm concerned about how long it will take to get the offense and Leach's ability to play to our current strengths, which is our run game with Hill.

    Defensively I'm concerned about the back end giving up a lot of points. But I think we win 3 of our non conference, Arkansas and Missouri. Those are for sure. Between Kentucky, Ole Miss, and NC State I think we win at least 1 of those. Question is can we win 2 out of those 3 and sneak a win at home against Auburn or TAMU. That's what it boils down to for me. 7-5 is the likely outcome.

    I think using the phrase "win at least 8" after revamping our offense as drastically as we are and basically rebuilding the entire staff is dangerous territory for unrealistic expectations.

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    We have to be realistic and give him a chance to get things going. Win 6 and keep the bowl streak and I'll be happy. Win more than 6 and it's gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    We have to be realistic and give him a chance to get things going. Win 6 and keep the bowl streak and I'll be happy. Win more than 6 and it's gravy.
    I think we'll know more after Spring. If we click, we actually have a good bit of talent to win some games.
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    There are 8 very winnable games on our schedule, that should be our expectation. Even JoMo would have us back in a bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    There are 8 very winnable games on our schedule, that should be our expectation. Even JoMo would have us back in a bowl.
    JoMo would have won 4 games next year

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    Yep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    Even JoMo would have us back in a bowl.
    Whew..... I don't know about this boss

    There are 8 on paper that we could win. We also don't know where Auburn or A&M will be when we play them.

    A&M has really high hopes for next season. If they lose some early ones, there could be a good bit of frustration
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Whew..... I don't know about this boss

    There are 8 on paper that we could win. We also don't know where Auburn or A&M will be when we play them.

    A&M has really high hopes for next season. If they lose some early ones, there could be a good bit of frustration

    Sept. 5: at home vs. New Mexico Win
    Sept. 12: on the road against North Carolina State Winnable
    Sept. 19: at home versus Arkansas Win
    Sept. 26: at home versus Tulane Win
    Oct. 3: at home versus Texas A&M
    Oct. 10: OPEN WEEK
    Oct. 17: on the road against Alabama
    Oct. 24 on the road against LSU
    Oct. 31: at home versus Auburn
    Nov. 7: at home versus Missouri Win
    Nov. 14: on the road against Kentucky Winnable
    Nov. 21: at home versus Alabama A&M Win
    Nov. 26: on the road against Ole Miss Winnable

    There are 5 for sure wins and 3 more winnable. Win 7 of those and upset one of these TAMU, AU, UAT, LSU (I think LSU is going to be pedestrian). 8 wins is our expectation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    Sept. 5: at home vs. New Mexico Win
    Sept. 12: on the road against North Carolina State Winnable
    Sept. 19: at home versus Arkansas Win
    Sept. 26: at home versus Tulane Win
    Oct. 3: at home versus Texas A&M
    Oct. 10: OPEN WEEK
    Oct. 17: on the road against Alabama
    Oct. 24 on the road against LSU
    Oct. 31: at home versus Auburn
    Nov. 7: at home versus Missouri Win
    Nov. 14: on the road against Kentucky Winnable
    Nov. 21: at home versus Alabama A&M Win
    Nov. 26: on the road against Ole Miss Winnable

    There are 5 for sure wins and 3 more winnable. Win 7 of those and upset one of these TAMU, AU, UAT, LSU (I think LSU is going to be pedestrian). 8 wins is our expectation.
    I think we lose Kentucky, Bama, and LSU for sure. Kentucky will be at home and returns 16-17 starters.
    NC State should be improved with all the starters they return and we play there. Toss-up
    A&M likely beats us. They are better and return 17-18 starters
    Mizzou returns 19 starters including 10 starters on a top 20 rated defense. New coach and new QB could be a good thing or take time. We dont know. Toss-up
    Auburn's passing game will be better and the back end of their D should be good. They have trench questions and their recruiting will have to live up to the hype. Toss-up

    We have alot of holes to fill on D and will be doing a 180 on offense. We were not good on D this year and lose most of our best players. Too many holes
    At OM will be very exciting as we go for 3 in a row and Kiffin works to make them better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    Sept. 5: at home vs. New Mexico Win
    Sept. 12: on the road against North Carolina State Winnable
    Sept. 19: at home versus Arkansas Win
    Sept. 26: at home versus Tulane Win
    Oct. 3: at home versus Texas A&M
    Oct. 10: OPEN WEEK
    Oct. 17: on the road against Alabama
    Oct. 24 on the road against LSU
    Oct. 31: at home versus Auburn
    Nov. 7: at home versus Missouri Win
    Nov. 14: on the road against Kentucky Winnable
    Nov. 21: at home versus Alabama A&M Win
    Nov. 26: on the road against Ole Miss Winnable

    There are 5 for sure wins and 3 more winnable. Win 7 of those and upset one of these TAMU, AU, UAT, LSU (I think LSU is going to be pedestrian). 8 wins is our expectation.
    8 wins is what happens if everything goes right. That is not the expectation unless you just want to set yourself up for disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I think we'll know more after Spring. If we click, we actually have a good bit of talent to win some games.
    I agree but I'm worried about us defensively and we don't need to leap unrealistic expectations on Leach. There will be a learning curve for sure. Give it time and enjoy it. If we win more than 6 next year I'll be ecstatic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I agree but I'm worried about us defensively and we don't need to leap unrealistic expectations on Leach. There will be a learning curve for sure. Give it time and enjoy it. If we win more than 6 next year I'll be ecstatic!
    This is it, huge questions everywhere and things need to shake out. Winning 6 is good and winning anymore is all just lagniappe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    This is it, huge questions everywhere and things need to shake out. Winning 6 is good and winning anymore is all just lagniappe.
    I agree, get to 6 wins and see improvement throughout the year...7 if we really improve...That's the main issue with me is I want to see us get better, good coaches make players better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastMan View Post
    JoMo would have won 4 games next year
    This at best. Our program was running off the rails with JoMo and was only getting worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Whew..... I don't know about this boss

    There are 8 on paper that we could win. We also don't know where Auburn or A&M will be when we play them.

    A&M has really high hopes for next season. If they lose some early ones, there could be a good bit of frustration
    aTm schedule...
    ACU
    North Texas
    Colorado
    Ark
    State

    They will vs 4-0 when we play them

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    aTm schedule...
    ACU
    North Texas
    Colorado
    Ark
    State

    They will vs 4-0 when we play them
    And Fresno State right after us.

    Ugh. We'll be there "time to step up game"

    Who knows though, maybe we'll be in a groove
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    And Fresno State right after us.

    Ugh. We'll be there "time to step up game"

    Who knows though, maybe we'll be in a groove
    Arkansas gives the AGGIES a fight every year. I would imagine they will be tested really well in that game. It always seems as a close game, and one that Arkansas goes all out to win.

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    I hope KT makes a commitment to playing WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    I hope KT makes a commitment to playing WR.
    I do too! I think he could be a good one with his size, speed and agility

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