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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    You can sugar coat it all you want, and no I'm not panicking, but I'm not thrilled with the way this is going. WSU's defensive guys have done nothing that have warranted coaching in the SEC. They may be good coaches, but anyone on a staff that finished 11th in the Pac12 in total defense, 286 passing yards, 170 rushing yards, and 31 points a game should not be promoted to the SEC. I don't care if there was a talent gap or if they fired the DC mid-way through the year. SEC ready coaches don't finish in the bottom of weak defensive conference. I wish Leach would've hired a DC and let him assemble the staff. If I'm a DC and I see that half of my defensive staff is already assembled for me with guys from the shittiest defense in the Pac12, I'm saying thanks but no thanks.
    I agree. I like Darcel McBath he is a good coach and was a great player at TTU. He will be a good one here if he is coming like the word is. But the rest Im not big on at all. This is the first thing I've had some worries about since we hired Leach

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I agree. I like Darcel McBath he is a good coach and was a great player at TTU. He will be a good one here if he is coming like the word is. But the rest Im not big on at all. This is the first thing I've had some worries about since we hired Leach
    The rest? It’s McBath and one other guy. And the other guy (Phelps) has been a Power 5 DL coach for nine years. He’s got a good resume.

    I don’t think it’s fair to evaluate the staff as a whole until it’s finished, but I don’t have a problem with either of the WSU guys he is bringing so far. Don’t think either or those guys are bad coaches at all. Now I would feel differently if the last two hires are both WSU guys, but that seems really unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Falcon View Post
    The rest? It?s McBath and one other guy. And the other guy (Phelps) has been a Power 5 DL coach for nine years. He?s got a good resume.

    I don?t think it?s fair to evaluate the staff as a whole until it?s finished, but I don?t have a problem with either of the WSU guys he is bringing so far. Don?t think either or those guys are bad coaches at all. Now I would feel differently if the last two hires are both WSU guys, but that seems really unlikely.
    Better hope not, because as of today every position filled that I know of is either a WSU bring along guy or Tony Hughes. We haven't hired anyone else that I know of and there are maybe 2 positions to fill (DC and LB coach).

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Better hope not, because as of today every position filled that I know of is either a WSU bring along guy or Tony Hughes. We haven't hired anyone else that I know of and there are maybe 2 positions to fill (DC and LB coach).
    I think this may spook some of the big dawgs off. But Leach's coaching tree speaks for itself. He knows what he is doing

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    McBath could be a hindrance on the DC Search

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I agree. I like Darcel McBath he is a good coach and was a great player at TTU. He will be a good one here if he is coming like the word is. But the rest Im not big on at all. This is the first thing I've had some worries about since we hired Leach
    McBath may be one of the reasons we can't get a DC to commit to us.
    Word on the street at WSU was that he doesn't play well with others.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...s-resignation/

    Halliday, still well-connected within the Cougars football program, said on a podcast episode that was published Tuesday. "They were at each other's throat like every day and after the UCLA game, Darcel, in the middle of practice, was just questioning everything Claeys was doing. So finally Claeys said, 'If you don't like the way I'm running things, I'll (expletive) leave.' Claeys called him on everyone's bluff and nothing changed."
    Last edited by OneWhoWas; 01-22-2020 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWhoWas View Post
    McBath may be one of the reasons we can't get a DC to commit to us.
    Word on the street at WSU was that he doesn't play well with others.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...s-resignation/
    And yet the DL coach Phelps, who coached under Claeys for years at Minn, has no problem staying with this staff including McBath and coming here. Word is the whole staff was having issues with his complex strategies for games and questioning him. They believed they needed to simplify the scheme and have players attacking more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    And yet the DL coach Phelps, who coached under Claeys for years at Minn, has no problem staying with this staff including McBath and coming here. Word is the whole staff was having issues with his complex strategies for games and questioning him. They believed they needed to simplify the scheme and have players attacking more.
    Leach was going to have to find a new DC either way. I'm haven't heard if Roc Bellantoni is going to be on staff yet? I wonder if he wants the DC job and Leach wants someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWhoWas View Post
    McBath may be one of the reasons we can't get a DC to commit to us.
    Word on the street at WSU was that he doesn't play well with others.
    https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...s-resignation/
    Three things:
    1) This interview was refuted by others, including staff and former players. After scoring 63 and losing, the coaches should be figuring it out intensely, but other reports denied any personal or abnormal bickering.

    2) Connor Halliday had been out of the program for 5 years and has a history of me-first attention seeking interviews. Grain of salt is needed.

    3) Tracy Claes dropped down to position coach at his next stop at UVA. If a DC position had been on offer anywhere, gotta assume he would have taken it. That does not speak to unfair treatment at WSU.

    We should be careful as State fans reading too much into these types of sound bit s with the full story, especially when it is readily available.

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