DC Search Update?

[Bothrops]

Not an issue in today's society with millionaire coaches and today's technology. Most head coaches have second homes nowadays.

That last sentence may be true, but I disagree, I think it's a problem for us.

[RocketDawg]

I think the Newberry deal was about living location honestly. These younger coaches and families dont want to be in rural MS when they have a choice.

He's not all that young. Graduated Baylor in 1998, so assuming he was 21 then makes him 44 now.

https://navysports.com/sports/footba...n-newberry/645

[dawgday166]

It certainly takes something you really deem valuable to turn down $400k or more of salary

Maybe we didn't offer that much more than he's making now. Being an up-and-comer I doubt we offer then over $1M. Probably more like $750K at best.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Clayton White - WKU
David Reese - UAB
Scottie Hazelton - Kansas St
Jay Bateman - UNC

Some names to remember

I like Hazelton and Bateman would be ok. But I know nothing about the other two. Im pretty disappointed if this is the list. We have more money than we have ever had to get a legit LEGIT staff and probably the biggest DC hire that I can ever remember this is the list. Kinda bummed here. Go get a proven dawg to run the defense make somebody say no. Im hoping this has already happened and I dont mean it being just Newberry either.

Im praying for Hazelton I know he could do it

[BuckyIsAB****]

Only if he hires the wrong guy. Whether or not you've heard of him is meaningless.

Personally, I think once DCs are competent, there is very little difference between them.

Defense above all else is decided by talent & speed. Offense is where I care much more about hiring.

Mullen had a different DC almost every year at MSU & he still won

If that was all it was you could coach it. Nobody is playing the south panola delta stack defense and saying sic em. Not in this league you'd better get somebody who can coach

[BuckyIsAB****]

You can sugar coat it all you want, and no I'm not panicking, but I'm not thrilled with the way this is going. WSU's defensive guys have done nothing that have warranted coaching in the SEC. They may be good coaches, but anyone on a staff that finished 11th in the Pac12 in total defense, 286 passing yards, 170 rushing yards, and 31 points a game should not be promoted to the SEC. I don't care if there was a talent gap or if they fired the DC mid-way through the year. SEC ready coaches don't finish in the bottom of weak defensive conference. I wish Leach would've hired a DC and let him assemble the staff. If I'm a DC and I see that half of my defensive staff is already assembled for me with guys from the shittiest defense in the Pac12, I'm saying thanks but no thanks.

I agree. I like Darcel McBath he is a good coach and was a great player at TTU. He will be a good one here if he is coming like the word is. But the rest Im not big on at all. This is the first thing I've had some worries about since we hired Leach

[bobcat91]

This hand wringing is laughable. No one had even heard of Newberry until 5 or so days ago and now folks are acting like we just missed out on a cant miss DC.

[defiantdog]

This hand wringing is laughable. No one had even heard of Newberry until 5 or so days ago and now folks are acting like we just missed out on a cant miss DC.

Newberry = Napier

[msstate7]

This hand wringing is laughable. No one had even heard of Newberry until 5 or so days ago and now folks are acting like we just missed out on a cant miss DC.

Well it's obvious we missed on at least 1 target now. Being turned down by navy's DC isn't great optics at the very least. Not saying it's time to panic, but concern is more than fair

[Captain Falcon]

I agree. I like Darcel McBath he is a good coach and was a great player at TTU. He will be a good one here if he is coming like the word is. But the rest Im not big on at all. This is the first thing I've had some worries about since we hired Leach

The rest? It’s McBath and one other guy. And the other guy (Phelps) has been a Power 5 DL coach for nine years. He’s got a good resume.

I don’t think it’s fair to evaluate the staff as a whole until it’s finished, but I don’t have a problem with either of the WSU guys he is bringing so far. Don’t think either or those guys are bad coaches at all. Now I would feel differently if the last two hires are both WSU guys, but that seems really unlikely.

[OLJWales]

The # 1 thing that I've been concerned with is the S&C Department. THAT will make the difference in what we are gonna see in 2020. The most important transition is afoot. Lets all be glad.

[Captain Falcon]

Well it's obvious we missed on at least 1 target now. Being turned down by navy's DC isn't great optics at the very least. Not saying it's time to panic, but concern is more than fair

We got turned down by ULL’s head coach and an NFL assistant with virtually no college experience and still ended up with a sitting Power 5 head coach. I’m not worried about optics or any concerns until we know who the hire is.

[dawgday166]

Well it's obvious we missed on at least 1 target now. Being turned down by navy's DC isn't great optics at the very least. Not saying it's time to panic, but concern is more than fair

Didn't realize you was an "optics" guy ** Thought you was a stats guy

[msstate7]

Didn't realize you was an "optics" guy ** Thought you was a stats guy

I'm multi-faceted

[msstate7]

We got turned down by ULL’s head coach and an NFL assistant with virtually no college experience and still ended up with a sitting Power 5 head coach. I’m not worried about optics or any concerns until we know who the hire is.

Fair enough. Just remember whoever it is now, he wasn't our HC's first choice. Doesn't mean the DC is less or a DC or that he can't be successful though

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Fair enough. Just remember whoever it is now, he wasn't our HC's first choice. Doesn't mean the DC is less or a DC or that he can't be successful though

or second right? Weren't we after Ryan Walters?

[Irondawg]

So if you are throwing $1m at someone who would you throw it at?

Hazleton, Bateman, someone else?

[GreenheadDawg]

You can sugar coat it all you want, and no I'm not panicking, but I'm not thrilled with the way this is going. WSU's defensive guys have done nothing that have warranted coaching in the SEC. They may be good coaches, but anyone on a staff that finished 11th in the Pac12 in total defense, 286 passing yards, 170 rushing yards, and 31 points a game should not be promoted to the SEC. I don't care if there was a talent gap or if they fired the DC mid-way through the year. SEC ready coaches don't finish in the bottom of weak defensive conference. I wish Leach would've hired a DC and let him assemble the staff. If I'm a DC and I see that half of my defensive staff is already assembled for me with guys from the shittiest defense in the Pac12, I'm saying thanks but no thanks.

Yeah I agree. I was really hoping that Leach would understand you can't just outscore people in the SEC. Especially not at MS state. I'm pretty concerned at this point that he's doesn't seem to be putting a lot of stock in defense and recruiting, which doesn't set up well for success. Ive lost my erection after the Leach hire.

[ShotgunDawg]

So if you are throwing $1m at someone who would you throw it at?

Hazleton, Bateman, someone else?

The one that knows how to scheme against the passing game.

Football has changed over the past 5 years or so. There are many famous DCs that simply wouldn't be all that effective against today's offenses as their defenses were designed to stop the run.

You definitely have to control the running game, but I'd love for Bama & LSU to shorten the game & run on us.

[dawgday166]

I'm multi-faceted

Renaissance man **