DC Search Update?

[dawgday166]

Well we swung and miss on our top guy, so I hope leach reconsiders. Shoop is a good coach

Absolutely agree but ... not getting my hopes up on it. I'm like you in that I wish Leach would reconsider.

[Irondawg]

If we were going to keep Shoop we would have done it already. I still think we need to look at the USM guy or the UAB guy.

My guess is we're about to get somebody out of left field

[HailStateSZN19]

Like IYOK said, swing back around to Hazelton at KSU and push for him. He only makes $550k. Offer him $1-1.2 mil.

Go talk to Bateman. It's been said he had interest in the job but we never contacted him much. He's only making $600k. Get to $1-1.2 mil and I don't see him saying no to that if he has interest in the job.

I'm guessing it's going to be someone completely out of left field and won't be either of them.

[Bothrops]

It makes it damn near impossible for a non-traditional blue blood to become one

Clemson is the only one I can remember that did.

[dawgday166]

A safeties coach?!!! Damn, 1 year removed from a top D in the country

There's a thought in me that Shoop may not want to be DC right now anyway. Not sure tho. Between his down years at TN and this past year and the acrimonious parting with PSU, he has some baggage that may be putting top tier programs off some. I was kinda fearing that Saban may snatch him up. Glad that didn't happen.

[ShotgunDawg]

Clemson is the only one I can remember that did.

And they did that due to staff continuity

[msstate7]

And they did that due to staff continuity

And being in a great location to land talent in a conference that allows teams to rise. I don't think dabo could've built that program in Starkville in the sec west

[Prediction? Pain.]

A safeties coach?!!! Damn, 1 year removed from a top D in the country

There's a thought in me that Shoop may not want to be DC right now anyway. Not sure tho. Between his down years at TN and this past year and the acrimonious parting with PSU, he has some baggage that may be putting top tier programs off some. I was kinda fearing that Saban may snatch him up. Glad that didn't happen.

Yeah, Shoop's had a weird run over the past four seasons in the SEC. 2018's defense was obviously elite. But the other three years stunk. Bad. Maybe it's just bad luck, but damn. I mean, in three of the past four years his defenses have been 12th, 11th, and 12th in the SEC scoring D, 14th, 10th, and 11th in the SEC in total D, 12th, 14th, and 11th in the SEC in opponents' yards per rush, 9th, 14th, and 10th in the SEC in opponents' 3rd down conversion %, and 10th, 10th, and 13th in opponents' redzone TD%.

That's either a hell of a string of inexplicably bad luck or a troubling trend. Either way, I can see why another school would look at those numbers from afar and balk at giving him a P5 DC gig right now.

[dawgday166]

And being in a great location to land talent in a conference that allows teams to rise. I don't think dabo could've built that program in Starkville in the sec west

He certainly is in a pretty good location and also not surrounded by 2 behemoths and 2 break the rules at all costs wannabees either.

[ShotgunDawg]

And being in a great location to land talent in a conference that allows teams to rise. I don't think dabo could've built that program in Starkville in the sec west

Agree. Proximity to Atlanta & in a conference that provided little resistance. Huge advantages.

Still though, they've always had those advantages. It was the coaching staff continuity & a transcendent leader in Dabo that really figured out the secret sauce.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Clayton White - WKU
David Reese - UAB
Scottie Hazelton - Kansas St
Jay Bateman - UNC

Some names to remember

[dawgday166]

Clayton White - WKU
David Reese - UAB
Scottie Hazelton - Kansas St
Jay Bateman - UNC

Some names to remember

What's your thoughts on White & Reese?

[Really Clark?]

And they did that due to staff continuity

Not with Veneables. If he wanted a HC job he would have been gone years ago and then we have no idea if that would be true with a DC.

[mparkerfd20]

This whole coaching search even with Leach has the potential to be a cluster**** of epic proportions.

[deadheaddawg]

This whole coaching search even with Leach has the potential to be a cluster**** of epic proportions.

I don't think you understand what epic proportions means

[ShotgunDawg]

This whole coaching search even with Leach has the potential to be a cluster**** of epic proportions.

Only if he hires the wrong guy. Whether or not you've heard of him is meaningless.

Personally, I think once DCs are competent, there is very little difference between them.

Defense above all else is decided by talent & speed. Offense is where I care much more about hiring.

Mullen had a different DC almost every year at MSU & he still won

[Ifyouonlyknew]

This whole coaching search even with Leach has the potential to be a cluster**** of epic proportions.

Nobody remembers coaching searches if the coaches win. You think TN fans care about the Schiano debacle & all the jokes they took? Nobody cares now because it's looking like the got the hire right.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

What's your thoughts on White & Reese?

They both have things that I like about them.

[msstate7]

Nobody remembers coaching searches if the coaches win. You think TN fans care about the Schiano debacle & all the jokes they took? Nobody cares now because it's looking like the got the hire right.

Prepare for a debate on your last statement, which I agree with BTW

[MaroonFlounder]

Defense may suck this season. Get ready for it.

I look for most of the loud, angry MSU fans that hated Moohead to hate Leach just as bad (except for the improved passing numbers).

We will lose games, but bet the over. Can't have it all. It's a trade-off. Offense will put butts in the seats.