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Basketball
What are we looking like for basketball this year? I lost touch of it last year. Does Ray have them really improving this year? Think he is the guy?
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/0...provement.html
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Final four or bust... Really a winning record and hopefully an nit birth are reasonable goals
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No, no improvement. I look for them to be the exact same and not a bit bigger or stronger either.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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We have 0 great players. We have 6 good players. And then the talent drops off the table. We also have no depth in the front court. It's going to be another ugly year, but I expect we will play hard and win a couple of games we shouldn't.
Ray hasn't gotten the job done with his first 2 recruiting classes. His 3rd one looks better. Is he the guy will only be answered by his ability to land talent.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
We have 0 great players. We have 6 good players. And then the talent drops off the table. We also have no depth in the front court. It's going to be another ugly year, but I expect we will play hard and win a couple of games we shouldn't.
Ray hasn't gotten the job done with his first 2 recruiting classes. His 3rd one looks better. Is he the guy will only be answered by his ability to land talent.
Front court depth is going to kill us.
IJ is really good. I think he will be great by the time he leaves.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Final four or bust... Really a winning record and hopefully an nit birth are reasonable goals
The NIT is not a reasonable goal.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
The NIT is not a reasonable goal.
Notice winning record and "hopefully" nit birth.
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Well this still answers the question. We will not be good.
Sucks, basketball was the one sport we use to always be decent at least.
Now its the worst of the 3.
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Notice winning record and "hopefully" nit birth.
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Yep, sucks when we do our own self imposed crooming.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
We have 0 great players. We have 6 good players. And then the talent drops off the table. We also have no depth in the front court. It's going to be another ugly year, but I expect we will play hard and win a couple of games we shouldn't.
Ray hasn't gotten the job done with his first 2 recruiting classes. His 3rd one looks better. Is he the guy will only be answered by his ability to land talent.
Who is the 6th? We have a good starting 5 of IJ Ready, Fred Thomas, Chicken Sword, Colin Bortchert, and Gavin Ware.
Not sure who else we have you would consider a "GOOD" player. We have role guys like Roquez Johnson, Bloodman, etc...
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Originally Posted by
bulldogsmsu
Well this still answers the question. We will not be good.
Sucks, basketball was the one sport we use to always be decent at least.
Now its the worst of the 3.
Sad but true, and the bad thing is beyond Kentucky and Florida the SEC is as bad from 3 to bottom as its ever been and we are at the bottom of the list.
Ray has to really land some Marquee recruits or he will have a short stay in Starkville.
I really believe his job and future depends on Malik Newman.
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Originally Posted by
601Dawg
Sad but true, and the bad thing is beyond Kentucky and Florida the SEC is as bad from 3 to bottom as its ever been and we are at the bottom of the list.
Ray has to really land some Marquee recruits or he will have a short stay in Starkville.
I really believe his job and future depends on Malik Newman.
Or elijah staley going basketball only in college...
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If it's depending on Malik, get the list of names ready for both a new basketball head coach and a new athletic director. This time I say we give Joe Dean, Jr. a call. I think he would be great as AD.
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Originally Posted by
601Dawg
I really believe his job and future depends on Malik Newman.
Ray's job in no way, shape, or form depends on Newman- who we are not going to get.
Ray's job is going to depend on what he recruits to help Ware in the post for his Jr and Sr years. Because if he can bring in some help there to go with what we already have in Ready, Sword, and FTF- we can be a team that has a chance to make the NCAA Tourney. He makes an NCAA Tourney- he has some job security.
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The problem is this. Our league is terrible. I can see this as a three bid league for the foreseeable future. Let's say that over the next five years he wins between 16-20 games but never makes the tournament only the NIT. Heck, let's say he makes the tournament every five years but doesn't win a tourney game.
What really did we accomplish? I thought our whole point to everything was not just making the tournament but going to the Sweet 16?
When we blew up our program, we really screwed ourself. Especially with how down the SEC is. I just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
What really did we accomplish? I thought our whole point to everything was not just making the tournament but going to the Sweet 16?
When we blew up our program, we really screwed ourself. Especially with how down the SEC is. I just don't get it.
Stands was not fired because he didnt make it to a Sweet 16- Stands was fired because the basketball program had become an embarrassing dumpster fire.
We're going to win 15-17 games this year. Next year we will win 20 or more. It's called "rebuilding", which is what we had to do with the way Stands let the program implode.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Stands was not fired because he didnt make it to a Sweet 16- Stands was fired because the basketball program had become an embarrassing dumpster fire.
Very true...if Stansbury had just kept making the tourney he would have been allowed to stay until retirement. You can embarrass the school and win, but you can't miss the tourney and embarrass the school.
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Originally Posted by
601Dawg
Who is the 6th? We have a good starting 5 of IJ Ready, Fred Thomas, Chicken Sword, Colin Bortchert, and Gavin Ware.
Not sure who else we have you would consider a "GOOD" player. We have role guys like Roquez Johnson, Bloodman, etc...
Roq Johnson is decent.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Roq Johnson is decent.
I agree, I think he figured out who he is at the end of last year, and he was still only a sophomore. I think he'll be a big contributor this year (that may be obvious due to our numbers, but I think he'll actually be pretty good).
It'll be an interesting year. I think we may take some lumps at the beginning of the year, and there may be people who say, 'We're no better than last year' as our young guys continue to learn and we depend on a true freshman PG. But by the end of the year, we could be a team that can actually compete with most of the conference.
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