Leach will be a disaster...

[dawgday166]

Take a step back and read what you posted. He recruited in the 35-40 range and won the number of games he did. That is impressive. That means he can coach. He does more with less. That's what state has to have. Any coach can win with top recruiting classes and at big programs.

What Leach has done is impressive as hell, as your research has just demonstrated

Bingo. That's what I noticed too when I did my research was a more with less coach. If Shoop were to stay we might could be in high cotton with Leach.

[Maroonthirteen]

I refuse to believe Leach is a serious candidate. Maybe Cohen gave him an interview but he has to be option 10 for Cohen. No way those two could co-exist.

[Coach34]

Would be a complete disaster At State. They play defense in the SEC. This isnt flag football that they play in the Big 12 and Pac 12. Moorhead has learned what constant man D does to your offense. The Pirate would too

DO NOT WANT

[HoopsDawg]

I'm team Leach. 100%.

[Tbonewannabe]

Take a step back and read what you posted. He recruited in the 35-40 range and won the number of games he did. That is impressive. That means he can coach. He does more with less. That's what state has to have. Any coach can win with top recruiting classes and at big programs.

What Leach has done is impressive as hell, as your research has just demonstrated

No doubt that he is a great coach and does more with less. My worry is that our recruiting wouldn't stay in the 20-25 range. I am worried that the level of recruits that he brings in won't be enough to compete. There is only so much coaching up and scheming that you can do. At some point you have to have Jimmy and Joes rather than Xs and Os.

[sandjunky]

Aye matey....lfg

[Mobile Bay]

The only coach kinda like Leach I've seen succeed in the SEC had an alligator on his visor and Florida/soon to be NFL talent on the sideline....for that reason I would be very skeptical about Leach at MOST SEC schools.

If you are talking about Spurrier, remember that coach led his #1 team in the nation to Starkville. When it was 3rd and 57, his QB ran out the back of the endzone in surrender.

[Spiderman]

No doubt that he is a great coach and does more with less. My worry is that our recruiting wouldn't stay in the 20-25 range. I am worried that the level of recruits that he brings in won't be enough to compete. There is only so much coaching up and scheming that you can do. At some point you have to have Jimmy and Joes rather than Xs and Os.

. I'll just say this Leach has a 60% winning percentage at TT and Wazzou. Sark was 56% at Washington and USC.

Which 2 schools are easier to recruit to and win at?

[HoopsDawg]

Leach does more with less better than anyone.

[defiantdog]

Cohen has lost the interview with basic coaches..... what makes y'all think he can convince a cut throat attorney to call him sir?

[Tbonewannabe]

. I'll just say this Leach has a 60% winning percentage at TT and Wazzou. Sark was 56% at Washington and USC.

Which 2 schools are easier to recruit to and win at?

See Coach34's post above. I am not sold on Leach's offense working in the SEC. That offense was close to what UK ran with Couch and they were only a bowl team with NFL level QBs and even then wasn't a great SEC team. I am not saying Leach would be a bust but I could see us going back to only beating UM, UK, or Ark on a regular schedule.

[Quaoarsking]

. I'll just say this Leach has a 60% winning percentage at TT and Wazzou. Sark was 56% at Washington and USC.

Which 2 schools are easier to recruit to and win at?

Boom. This should be stickied at the top of the forum.

(Unless we hire Sark and need to rally around him, of course.)

[Coach34]

Kentucky went 5-6 and 7-5 with Leach as OC and an NFL QB

[DownwardDawg]

Would be a complete disaster At State. They play defense in the SEC. This isnt flag football that they play in the Big 12 and Pac 12. Moorhead has learned what constant man D does to your offense. The Pirate would too

DO NOT WANT

We will be back to the 80’s after 2 years of Moorehead and then 2 years of Leach. And we’ll be poor too paying Leach’s buyout just 2 years after paying Mooreheads buyout.

[HoopsDawg]

Kentucky went 5-6 and 7-5 with Leach as OC and an NFL QB

That's pretty good.

[dawgday166]

Kentucky went 5-6 and 7-5 with Leach as OC and an NFL QB

You making some good points. I haven't watched Leach coached teams at all and just did some preliminary research on the fly this afternoon.

[Liverpooldawg]

. I'll just say this Leach has a 60% winning percentage at TT and Wazzou. Sark was 56% at Washington and USC.

Which 2 schools are easier to recruit to and win at?

Washington was 0-12 the year before Sark took over. The were literally the worst team in the P5 and one of the worst in D1. USC was at the depth of the destruction left by the NCAA and Kiffen.

[Churchill]

Would be a complete disaster At State. They play defense in the SEC. This isnt flag football that they play in the Big 12 and Pac 12. Moorhead has learned what constant man D does to your offense. The Pirate would too

DO NOT WANT

I am absolutely amazed that so many folks don't understand this. He would crash and burn like the Hindenburg.

[Liverpooldawg]

That's pretty good.

We just fired a guy for doing better than that with a QBs that couldn't throw the ball consistently.

[Quaoarsking]

Washington was 0-12 the year before Sark took over. The were literally the worst team in the P5 and one of the worst in D1. USC was at the depth of the destruction left by the NCAA and Kiffen.

Second worst. The worst team in P5 was easily the Washington State program that ... [checks Wikipedia] ... Mike Leach took over and miraculously turned around and took to greater heights than Sark ever took Washington.