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    Leach will be a disaster...

    Of a hire. Yeah I know there are other threads talking about him. But I didn't see one that says hiring Leach will be a disaster.

    Please. Someone step up and take Cohens phone and keys away from him.
    (If only half of what's being reported he's doing )

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    Leach would be a grandslam
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    A disaster ... for our opponents.

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    The only coach kinda like Leach I've seen succeed in the SEC had an alligator on his visor and Florida/soon to be NFL talent on the sideline....for that reason I would be very skeptical about Leach at MOST SEC schools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLGDawg View Post
    Of a hire. Yeah I know there are other threads talking about him. But I didn't see one that says hiring Leach will be a disaster.

    Please. Someone step up and take Cohens phone and keys away from him.
    (If only half of what's being reported he's doing )


    Examples on why this will be a disaster??

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    Quote Originally Posted by reno hightower View Post
    Examples on why this will be a disaster??
    OT I like your handle. That's one of my favorite movies!

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    This hire would be great because he would always win the press conference and how can you get mad at this guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLGDawg View Post
    Of a hire. Yeah I know there are other threads talking about him. But I didn't see one that says hiring Leach will be a disaster.

    Please. Someone step up and take Cohens phone and keys away from him.
    (If only half of what's being reported he's doing )
    Did Momma ground you from your Black Bear stuffed animal "Colonel Rebear". I know losing your favorite little furry friend "Baby Shark" was tough, but I hope you can survive without both of your best furry friends.

    If you aren't a troll, please expound on why it will be a disaster rather than just simply spewing the words out of your ignorant ass mouth. I know it must be unBearable to see State hire a real coach. Maybe you can pull out your secret weapon "Lane the Toy Train" and ride him straight to bed.

    This board is just awful right now. Ignorance everywhere
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    His recruiting is between 44 - 60. No chance that level recruiting makes you competitive. He might can coach his ass off but bottom line is you have to at least have a minimum talent level to compete in the SEC West.

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    Leach would be great

    Napier, Sark, or Leach would all be great hires

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    Leach would be a great hire.

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    Leach would not work here, simply because this is not the Big 12 or PAC 12.
    I hate ole miss more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousDawg View Post
    Did Momma ground you from your Black Bear stuffed animal "Colonel Rebear". I know losing your favorite little furry friend "Baby Shark" was tough, but I hope you can survive without both of your best furry friends.

    If you aren't a troll, please expound on why it will be a disaster rather than just simply spewing the words out of your ignorant ass mouth. I know it must be unBearable to see State hire a real coach. Maybe you can pull out your secret weapon "Lane the Toy Train" and ride him straight to bed.

    This board is just awful right now. Ignorance everywhere
    Dang devious ...I was 100% with you on the Sark write up you did. Now I've got you accusing me of being a rebel troll???? Good grief man. PLEASE ask the enforcer to have me vetted. If not, dm me and I'll give you my phone number and we'll talk about it.

    I expressed an opinion of Leach based on what I have seen from him over the years. I don't feel he has the leadership qualities that our program needs right now. It's just my honest opinion.

    ETA. I have personally met several of the people who started this website. Not that that makes a difference....but dang man...don't call me a rebel. Go back and read every one of my posts before you spout off ignorant shit at me!!
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    The SXM guys on SEC Radio were as giddy as school girls over the thought of Leach in the SEC. They thought it would be a canon ball splash of a hire.

    And IDGAF anymore. I'm ready for this to be over. Sark, Napier or Leach just hire one and let's get going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    His recruiting is between 44 - 60. No chance that level recruiting makes you competitive. He might can coach his ass off but bottom line is you have to at least have a minimum talent level to compete in the SEC West.
    He would recruit in the 25-30 range, same as Mullen, maybe dip down below 20 once every couple classes, and also up to 35ish every now and again, but on average he would recruit at the level that we have always recruited. He is gonna get his guys like Mullen, just like Mullen.

    Washington State has a recruiting profile closer to Southern Miss than Mississippi State, and honestly Southern Miss may have a better recruiting profile over the last 20 years. Looking at WSU's all time recruit list, they have signed and enrolled 10 4-stars since recruiting rankings begin around the new millennium. 5 of those were signed by Leach. They have never signed a 5 star. We think it's hard for us to recruit, we have no idea.

    In short, it's WSU, not Leach that recruits poorly. Also, you can look at that glass half empty if you want, or you can look at it and say, wow Leach has only had 5 4-stars enroll since he started there, and he still has built a program that competes on a national scale. Leach would be a YUGEEEEEEEEEE hire. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLGDawg View Post
    Dang devious ...I was 100% with you on the Sark write up you did. Now I've got you accusing me of being a rebel troll???? Good grief man. PLEASE ask the enforcer to have me vetted. If not, dm me and I'll give you my phone number and we'll talk about it.

    I expressed an opinion of Leach based on what I have seen from him over the years. I don't feel he has the leadership qualities that our program needs right now. It's just my honest opinion.

    ETA. I have personally met several of the people who started this website. Not that that makes a difference....but dang man...don't call me a rebel. Go back and read every one of my posts before you spout off ignorant shit at me!!
    Man, I was obviously just 17ing with you. I know you aren't a troll, sorry all of this BS and ignorance around the board has me a bit on edge, but it wasn't personal. You just ended up being the victim because I am tired of people stating "not a good hire", without even the smallest explanation. You are entitled to your opinion, and I can see what you are saying leadership wise, but he is just wayyyyyyy too good of a FOOTBALL COACH to not take if he wants to come, period.

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    Right now, this program and our fanbase needs a shot of adrenaline more than anything. Get everything back on track, get a good FOOTBALL COACH in there and the rest will take care of itself. The risk is miniscule compared to that with Judge, Grantham, Sark, and even Napier. He will win games here and that's what we need, along with something to be excited about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousDawg View Post
    Man, I was obviously just 17ing with you. I know you aren't a troll, sorry all of this BS and ignorance around the board has me a bit on edge, but it wasn't personal. You just ended up being the victim because I am tired of people stating "not a good hire", without even the smallest explanation. You are entitled to your opinion, and I can see what you are saying leadership wise, but he is just wayyyyyyy too good of a FOOTBALL COACH to not take if he wants to come, period.
    I did not see any sarcasterics so I thought you were dead serious. My bad if misinterpreted. I'm 51 and some of this younger folk talk is sometimes over my head or takes me a bit to "get it".

    I agree that Leach is a good coach. You don't create an offense like his without being arguably a "great" coach. But Moorhead is a good coach to. So I don't know.
    To me this is such an important hire for us at this time. I have been hoping for Napier. But then you wrote the piece on Sark and it made a lot of sense to me. So right now I am just hoping that it's Napier or Sark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeviousDawg View Post
    He would recruit in the 25-30 range, same as Mullen, maybe dip down below 20 once every couple classes, and also up to 35ish every now and again, but on average he would recruit at the level that we have always recruited. He is gonna get his guys like Mullen, just like Mullen.

    Washington State has a recruiting profile closer to Southern Miss than Mississippi State, and honestly Southern Miss may have a better recruiting profile over the last 20 years. Looking at WSU's all time recruit list, they have signed and enrolled 10 4-stars since recruiting rankings begin around the new millennium. 5 of those were signed by Leach. They have never signed a 5 star. We think it's hard for us to recruit, we have no idea.

    In short, it's WSU, not Leach that recruits poorly. Also, you can look at that glass half empty if you want, or you can look at it and say, wow Leach has only had 5 4-stars enroll since he started there, and he still has built a program that competes on a national scale. Leach would be a YUGEEEEEEEEEE hire. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
    At Texas Tech, Leach was recruiting in the 33-45 range. The two years after were both in the 20s. So Texas Tech recruiting improved when he left.

    Washington St is last or within the bottom three in the Pac 12 in recruiting almost every year under Leach. His best recruiting class at Washington St is with an average star rating of 2.88 on rivals which was around 8th or 9th in the Pac 12.

    Not sure if he can overcome the recruiting short fall that would be in the SEC. It is a lot easier to coach them up when your recruiting at a level of 35-40 when the average team in the PAC 12 is closer to top 25 level talent vs the SEC having top 10-15 talent.

    I wouldn't hate the hire but it wouldn't surprise me if Leach never won more than 7 games at MSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    At Texas Tech, Leach was recruiting in the 33-45 range. The two years after were both in the 20s. So Texas Tech recruiting improved when he left.

    Washington St is last or within the bottom three in the Pac 12 in recruiting almost every year under Leach. His best recruiting class at Washington St is with an average star rating of 2.88 on rivals which was around 8th or 9th in the Pac 12.

    Not sure if he can overcome the recruiting short fall that would be in the SEC. It is a lot easier to coach them up when your recruiting at a level of 35-40 when the average team in the PAC 12 is closer to top 25 level talent vs the SEC having top 10-15 talent.

    I wouldn't hate the hire but it wouldn't surprise me if Leach never won more than 7 games at MSU.
    Take a step back and read what you posted. He recruited in the 35-40 range and won the number of games he did. That is impressive. That means he can coach. He does more with less. That's what state has to have. Any coach can win with top recruiting classes and at big programs.

    What Leach has done is impressive as hell, as your research has just demonstrated
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