Just For The Hell Of It

[Spiderman]

Say State does fire Moorhead today......

I know it's not the norm for a message board, but if it did occur, it has to be looked at with realism.

And the reality is the only coaches State could hire would be those that are at smaller levels or conferences, or those out of coaching currently.

And you have to hire someone who has proven they can win, still has the fire to go wide open everyday, runs an offense that State can recruit to, and be able to recruit the area with solid, already in place contacts. If not, you might as well keep Moorhead instead of taking a risk again.

Therefore, realistically, the group is narrowed down.

Throw out Meyer because he ain't coming. We missed that chance in '02.

So that leaves....

Hud
Napier
Rich Rod
Clark
Fritz

So that's your choices realistically.

Napier I think holds out for something else, especially with this timing.

Fritz is almost 60 and may be satisfied with where he is at.

Clark's in a good situation too, basically a job for life in his home state.

So realistically, it could just be Hud or Rich Rod because of all the above factors and the timing.

Could you live with that?

Me? I could

[bluelightstar]

This is the rare case where the devil you don't know is better than the devil you do.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'd give Clawson a call.

I still want to know why Hud isn't the answer

[Coursesuper]

Say State does fire Moorhead today......

I know it's not the norm for a message board, but if it did occur, it has to be looked at with realism.

And the reality is the only coaches State could hire would be those that are at smaller levels or conferences, or those out of coaching currently.

And you have to hire someone who has proven they can win, still has the fire to go wide open everyday, runs an offense that State can recruit to, and be able to recruit the area with solid, already in place contacts. If not, you might as well keep Moorhead instead of taking a risk again.

Therefore, realistically, the group is narrowed down.

Throw out Meyer because he ain't coming. We missed that chance in '02.

So that leaves....

Hud
Napier
Rich Rod
Clark
Fritz

So that's your choices realistically.

Napier I think holds out for something else, especially with this timing.

Fritz is almost 60 and may be satisfied with where he is at.

Clark's in a good situation too, basically a job for life in his home state.

So realistically, it could just be Hud or Rich Rod because of all the above factors and the timing.

Could you live with that?

Me? I could

Yep, I could also.

[StateDawg44]

Napier I think holds out for something else, especially with this timing.

What does this even mean?

[HailStateSZN19]

I'd give Clawson a call.

I still want to know why Hud isn't the answer

100% agree on Clawson. I'd for sure give him a call to gauge interest. Napier and Clawson are my personal top 2.

[DownwardDawg]

Yes I could live with either of those, but I don’t think you’re right about Napier or Clark. I think either would jump on the job with the SEC money we throw at them if we want to.

[Spiderman]

What does this even mean?

it means he is still coaching, and that it's a bad timing as far as the coaching cycle. Plus, he may bet on himself landing a bigger job somewhere in the future. Be a good bet at ULL where he should continue to win.

[Spiderman]

Yes I could live with either of those, but I don’t think you’re right about Napier or Clark. I think either would jump on the job with the SEC money we throw at them if we want to.

Maybe, but of that group, Clark and Fritz would be my bottom 2.

[Commercecomet24]

At this point I'd take the guy from Friday night tykes over joe.

[StateDawg44]

it means he is still coaching, and that it's a bad timing as far as the coaching cycle. Plus, he may bet on himself landing a bigger job somewhere in the future. Be a good bet at ULL where he should continue to win.

This just seems very very short-sighted. He could easily request to finish out at ULL and why would we not grant that?

[Maroonthirteen]

Good... logical post.

Yes, I could live with that. After that performance in the bowl, I would be ok with anyone at this point.

Any of those guys or even Chizik.

[Tbonewannabe]

it means he is still coaching, and that it's a bad timing as far as the coaching cycle. Plus, he may bet on himself landing a bigger job somewhere in the future. Be a good bet at ULL where he should continue to win.

This year is unique with the early signing period locking up almost the entire recruiting class. It isn't completely out of the norm for programs to hire at this time of year. As far as Napier, he would have to have a lot of faith in himself to think he would get a better job than a middle tier SEC school. As long as Cohen isn't trying to go cheap, there isn't a handful of jobs that would be available within the next 2-3 years that would be pay better. I believe Napier is recruiting well enough to keep ULL around the 9-10 win record but you never can tell what school will be looking at G5 coaches.

I think if we are hiring then Napier is probably the guy but we will definitely have someone locked up before we let Moorhead go. At this point, I would take Hud or Rich Rod over Moorhead.

[Tbonewannabe]

This just seems very very short-sighted. He could easily request to finish out at ULL and why would we not grant that?

We could also announce him on Tuesday after their bowl game. I don't know what 4 days would hurt.

[Spiderman]

Good... logical post.

Yes, I could live with that. After that performance in the bowl, I would be ok with anyone at this point.

Any of those guys or even Chizik.

IMO Chizk doesn't fit the criteria. Without Gus and Cam he is a loser at Auburn.

[TrapGame]

If we are down to Hud I'm good with that. Joe is an abysmal failure. Hud's resume is actually better imo.

[Spiderman]

This year is unique with the early signing period locking up almost the entire recruiting class. It isn't completely out of the norm for programs to hire at this time of year. As far as Napier, he would have to have a lot of faith in himself to think he would get a better job than a middle tier SEC school. As long as Cohen isn't trying to go cheap, there isn't a handful of jobs that would be available within the next 2-3 years that would be pay better. I believe Napier is recruiting well enough to keep ULL around the 9-10 win record but you never can tell what school will be looking at G5 coaches.

I think if we are hiring then Napier is probably the guy but we will definitely have someone locked up before we let Moorhead go. At this point, I would take Hud or Rich Rod over Moorhead.

The point of the post is this.....

I see everybody saying who they want. All fine and good. The point is can you live with ANY of the coaches on that list?

Because 99% it's gonna be one of them.

If Napier did say no, could you live with the others?

Or wait and take your chances next year at some time?

[Tbonewannabe]

IMO Chizk doesn't fit the criteria. Without Gus and Cam he is a loser at Auburn.

I completely agree. I would not want Chizik. He was purely brought in at Auburn so they could have a coach that was All In on the Network cranking up to 11.

[Tbonewannabe]

The point of the post is this.....

I see everybody saying who they want. All fine and good. The point is can you live with ANY of the coaches on that list?

Because 99% it's gonna be one of them.

If Napier did say no, could you live with the others?

Or wait and take your chances next year at some time?

I would take anyone on that list over Moorhead at this time. I think another year with a lame duck coach that is destroying our culture is the worst possible choice. At Moorhead's pace of losing 2 more games than he should, we might not make a bowl game anyway. I can honestly say that no one on that list could do worse than what I expect from Moorhead and I would hope they would bring a SEC mentality back to our program instead of the Fordham.

[KB21]

There is still an assistant coach pool that can be selected from. It's not ideal, but when you have an AD that is tight on the purse strings, it may be what you get.