JT Ginn

[louisvilledawg]

I know Commerce is the go to for info regarding him, but what's the latest on Mr. Ginn?

Was just looking at prospect lists and he's hovering around the late first to mid/late second round.

Said he has to throw with considerable effort and his mechanics are what is pushing him back.

Also said he's old for his class and would be a draft eligible sophomore in 2020.

Would be great to get him on campus, work on the delivery, and have him with us for two years before signing for the huge bucks.

[Bully13]

There was a good thread on this not too long ago. Most who know more than me on this (cuz I know jack shit on Ginn except his awesome stats) say if he gets a certain amount of signing $, he goes pro. If not, college is not out of the question. Most think he never sets foot on our campus.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I know Commerce is the go to for info regarding him, but what's the latest on Mr. Ginn?

Was just looking at prospect lists and he's hovering around the late first to mid/late second round.

Said he has to throw with considerable effort and his mechanics are what is pushing him back.

Also said he's old for his class and would be a draft eligible sophomore in 2020.

Would be great to get him on campus, work on the delivery, and have him with us for two years before signing for the huge bucks.

Don't get your hopes up.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Don't get your hopes up.

Care to enlighten us with .....why the hell not?

[Tbonewannabe]

Care to enlighten us with .....why the hell not?

I think he is saying that he will be a first round pick with the payday that comes with it.

[Steakonastick]

Supposedly his dollar amount is 2.0 million.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm gonna tell y'all that they are torn. Mike and JT both love college baseball and State. I know some folks will think that they will just take the money and go. It's not that simple for them. JT really wants to play college baseball but the opportunity to receive life changing money and a chance to start a pro career is something he's dreamed of and worked for his whole life. They spent the past weekend in Starkville hanging out and watching the games and loving the atmosphere. This is not an easy decision for them at all. Mikes my friend and I don't hassle him with questions about which way they're gonna go. Me and Mike have been tight for a long time and he shares a lot with me. We were both undersized scrappy middle infielders who had to work and fight for everything we got. I won't share all of the details of what we talk about, but I can tell you that this is not an easy decision for them and they're struggling with it. JT's a great young man and Mike only has his best interest at heart. As he's told me a million times the decision will ultimately be JT's. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in Maroon and White, conversely I also wouldn't be surprised to see him go MLB. I wish I could tell y'all he was coming to State but I don't think they're even 100% sure yet which route they're gonna take.

[Tbonewannabe]

This is the right answer. If he gets enough to set him up and still has a team set to pay his tuition then you go into the pros. Teams want 1st round picks to succeed because of how much they have invested. No one should fault him for going pro if that is the right choice for him.

[Homedawg]

Supposedly his dollar amount is 2.0 million.

You will know on draft day if he’s gonna get it. A la Austin Riley. If they take him they are going to pay him

[Todd4State]

This is the right answer. If he gets enough to set him up and still has a team set to pay his tuition then you go into the pros. Teams want 1st round picks to succeed because of how much they have invested. No one should fault him for going pro if that is the right choice for him.

The thing about the tuition is it's a lot more difficult to go back to college at age 23-25 than it is at 18-19. Honesty for me it would have to be 4-5 million for me to not go to school. To me the best case scenario would be to play pro baseball until age 36 and then retire and be able to immediately join the working world if I had to. Or actually retire on the millions I made playing baseball. Very few get to do that. There is a saying that at some point the game always wins.

[Bully13]

I'm gonna tell y'all that they are torn. Mike and JT both love college baseball and State. I know some folks will think that they will just take the money and go. It's not that simple for them. JT really wants to play college baseball but the opportunity to receive life changing money and a chance to start a pro career is something he's dreamed of and worked for his whole life. They spent the past weekend in Starkville hanging out and watching the games and loving the atmosphere. This is not an easy decision for them at all. Mikes my friend and I don't hassle him with questions about which way they're gonna go. Me and Mike have been tight for a long time and he shares a lot with me. We were both undersized scrappy middle infielders who had to work and fight for everything we got. I won't share all of the details of what we talk about, but I can tell you that this is not an easy decision for them and they're struggling with it. JT's a great young man and Mike only has his best interest at heart. As he's told me a million times the decision will ultimately be JT's. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him in Maroon and White, conversely I also wouldn't be surprised to see him go MLB. I wish I could tell y'all he was coming to State but I don't think they're even 100% sure yet which route they're gonna take.

Great Post . Rep Given. So, for now, that settles it. Edited to add, I'll have to spread some around before giving more to Commerce.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Care to enlighten us with .....why the hell not?

The only reason people here think we have any better of a shot at getting him to campus than all the other high draft picks we've ever signed is because someone here knows his dad.

[Bully13]

The only reason people here think we have any better of a shot at getting him to campus than all the other high draft picks we've ever signed is because someone here knows his dad.

And that someone has earned his right to be listened to. He's not guaranteeing anything, just being honest. I for one appreciate his input.

[msstate7]

And that someone has earned his right to be listened to. He's not guaranteeing anything, just being honest. I for one appreciate his input.

Well it has gone from he is coming to maybe he is coming. He will not be here.

[Tbonewannabe]

Well it has gone from he is coming to maybe he is coming. He will not be here.

Probably best to expect him to go pro so if he does come to MSU then it is a positive.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

And that someone has earned his right to be listened to. He's not guaranteeing anything, just being honest. I for one appreciate his input.

I have no problem with his postings, I'm just saying we have the same shot for Ginn as we have all of our previous high draft picks: very very slim.

Though like msstate7 said, either Commerce or Ginn's dad is slowly walking it back on us it seems

[MarketingBully]

I’d stick the number at $3 million and not budge from it. If he goes to college, he only has to go for two years. MLB teams are notorious for lieing to HS kids and are more likely to come in on the short side of his number. He definitely will not get to hit in the minors only pitch. Not only that but the minors suck and he will have a better chance of getting to the show faster going to college for two years then going right out of high school. And odds are extremely good that he would be a Top 10 pick just two years down the road which at the least he would make $4.5 million. Not bad for over doubling your number for two years of work. Plus if he’s that torn about going pro or coming to school he’s going to regret if he goes straight pro. He’ll never get college baseball back. If he can wait two years, he could make much more money and be a part of either the Schlossnagle or McDonnell era and at least make a CWS once in his career. If he thinks about it, there’s more pros then cons for going to college.

[Commercecomet24]

Look guys I've always been honest about this from the beginning. I said from the beginning these situations were fluid and things could change. Up until about 6 weeks ago mike didn't think he was going to be drafted high enough to get the money they wanted and he would be at State. I let a poster on here know about this at the time me and mike talked. Things change. His last 2 starts moved him up draft boards. Neither me or Mike are walking it back, I can promise you that, what I've told you is the way it is. And when I tell you they're torn over this it's the truth. Imagine having 2 things you dreamed of your whole life both coming true at the same time(playing for State and mlb). So if you will imagine how hard this decision is. Mike told me yesterday that there would be times of second guessing no matter which route they choose.

[Todd4State]

I?d stick the number at $3 million and not budge from it. If he goes to college, he only has to go for two years. MLB teams are notorious for lieing to HS kids and are more likely to come in on the short side of his number. He definitely will not get to hit in the minors only pitch. Not only that but the minors suck and he will have a better chance of getting to the show faster going to college for two years then going right out of high school. And odds are extremely good that he would be a Top 10 pick just two years down the road which at the least he would make $4.5 million. Not bad for over doubling your number for two years of work. Plus if he?s that torn about going pro or coming to school he?s going to regret if he goes straight pro. He?ll never get college baseball back. If he can wait two years, he could make much more money and be a part of either the Schlossnagle or McDonnell era and at least make a CWS once in his career. If he thinks about it, there?s more pros then cons for going to college.

One thing about McDonnell. He did a pretty good job developing Brenden McKay who was a two way guy in college and drafted as a two way guy out of college by the pros.

[Todd4State]

Look guys I've always been honest about this from the beginning. I said from the beginning these situations were fluid and things could change. Up until about 6 weeks ago mike didn't think he was going to be drafted high enough to get the money they wanted and he would be at State. I let a poster on here know about this at the time me and mike talked. Things change. His last 2 starts moved him up draft boards. Neither me or Mike are walking it back, I can promise you that, what I've told you is the way it is. And when I tell you they're torn over this it's the truth. Imagine having 2 things you dreamed of your whole life both coming true at the same time(playing for State and mlb). So if you will imagine how hard this decision is. Mike told me yesterday that there would be times of second guessing no matter which route they choose.

I appreciate everything that you have given to me and others as far as updates. You have been on the up and up and haven't misled anyone.

Now my personal two cents on the situation as a guy that grew up a MSU and Cardinals fan- the deciding factor for me is because of the rules you only get one opportunity to be a MSU Bulldog. Or whatever your college team is really. There are usually more than one opportunities to go pro.

Again that's my personal two cents and I respect whatever decision they make.