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    NCAA:Did! OM:Did not! NCAA:Did too! OM:Did not! Rebuttals released...

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    You couldn’t pay me to read that

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    Who is rumored to be the John Doe Shart? And the woman that was helping him out? What is her name?

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    Anyone care to give cliff notes?

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    Yea, I'm not reading through all that. Hope someone gives us some quick notes on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Anyone care to give cliff notes?



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    The title of the thread is likely the best summary.

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    All that is important:

    CONCLUSION
    This Committee should affirm the findings of
    facts, violations and penalties.

    Respectfully submitted by, NCAA DivisionI Committee on Infractions

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    “when three individuals who were
    unacquainted visited the booster's retail store at different times and store employees
    provided them and/or friends and family with items free-of-charge.”

    “unacquainted”
    Last edited by Schultzy; 05-03-2018 at 03:37 AM.

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    NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions
    Response to University of Mississippi Appeal
    University of Mississippi - Case No. 00561
    April 11, 2018
    Page No.6
    panel issued its infractions decision on December 1, 2017, and the institution filed a timely
    appeal.
    Factual Statement
    The violations that led to this case began in the spring and summer of 2010. Two
    football staff members orchestrated a scheme to attain fraudulent standardized tests scores for
    three (School redacted) prospects who had committed to play football at Mississippi but had not yet
    achieved qualifying standardized tests scores. The two football staff members directed the
    prospects to re-take their standardized tests at a Mississippi location hundreds of miles from their
    homes and to leave blank the answers to questions they did not know. The staff members knew
    the test supervisor at the location. The test scores for all three prospects increased dramatically.
    Two of the three did not complete their tests, but their answer sheets were later found to be filled
    in completely. One of the prospects' answer sheets contained multiple erasures and changed
    answers? FI6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions
    Response to University of Mississippi Appeal
    University of Mississippi - Case No. 00561
    April 11, 2018
    Page No.6
    panel issued its infractions decision on December 1, 2017, and the institution filed a timely
    appeal.
    Factual Statement
    The violations that led to this case began in the spring and summer of 2010. Two
    football staff members orchestrated a scheme to attain fraudulent standardized tests scores for
    three (School redacted) prospects who had committed to play football at Mississippi but had not yet
    achieved qualifying standardized tests scores. The two football staff members directed the
    prospects to re-take their standardized tests at a Mississippi location hundreds of miles from their
    homes and to leave blank the answers to questions they did not know. The staff members knew
    the test supervisor at the location. The test scores for all three prospects increased dramatically.
    Two of the three did not complete their tests, but their answer sheets were later found to be filled
    in completely. One of the prospects' answer sheets contained multiple erasures and changed
    answers? FI6.
    This alone should have buried the program.

    "Two football staff members" and academic fraud. Dunzo. Should have leveled the grove. NCAA are some straight wusses.

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    I skimmed through a lot of it. Basically, they not over turning anything. RR gave away free stuff. Leo was credible and took some OM booster to the woodshed for 10 grand right before signing day(freaking hilarious). Dude tried to contact him and get his money back!!! Ha ha ha. Boosters out of control. Assistant coaches out of control. And COI had every right and reason to levy the penalties they did and for the length of time they did. That's what my smimming got me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions
    Response to University of Mississippi Appeal
    University of Mississippi - Case No. 00561
    April 11, 2018
    Page No.6
    panel issued its infractions decision on December 1, 2017, and the institution filed a timely
    appeal.
    Factual Statement
    The violations that led to this case began in the spring and summer of 2010. Two
    football staff members orchestrated a scheme to attain fraudulent standardized tests scores for
    three (School redacted) prospects who had committed to play football at Mississippi but had not yet
    achieved qualifying standardized tests scores. The two football staff members directed the
    prospects to re-take their standardized tests at a Mississippi location hundreds of miles from their
    homes and to leave blank the answers to questions they did not know. The staff members knew
    the test supervisor at the location. The test scores for all three prospects increased dramatically.
    Two of the three did not complete their tests, but their answer sheets were later found to be filled
    in completely. One of the prospects' answer sheets contained multiple erasures and changed
    answers? FI6.
    How the 17 did they not get more scholarship reductions for this?

    I don't understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token Bammer View Post
    This alone should have buried the program.

    "Two football staff members" and academic fraud. Dunzo. Should have leveled the grove. NCAA are some straight wusses.
    I'm guessing that the two staff members are Saunders and Barney Farrar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    How the 17 did they not get more scholarship reductions for this?

    I don't understand
    Because the NCAA is a 17ing joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDawg View Post
    Because the NCAA is a 17ing joke.
    That's all there is to be said. The NCAA needs to go away. They have rendered themselves useless to college football.

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    Anybody got cliff notes on this crap? I can't get my head around reading this stuff.

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    In a Nutt shell, The committee rejected the Rebels claim that Leo was not credible, while confirming that they deserve the “lack of institutional control” that they were slapped with thus reduction of unofficial visits, etc., stands.

    Mississippi’s Appeal - DENIED

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    How the 17 did they not get more scholarship reductions for this?

    I don't understand
    The only thing I can figure is that the committee had a bunch of academic types that didn't like the idea of eliminating any more scholarship opportunities than they had to, so they went light on scholly reductions and tried to make up for it in other areas (like the unofficial visit restriction).....so the goal would have been to substantially hamstring OM's ability to effectively recruit without preventing another 12-15 kids from getting full scholarships to go to college.

    Whatever their reasoning was, if the goal was to send a message that cheating wasn't worth the risk, they completely dropped the ball. I was stunned when I saw that they only lost 13.....I always knew that the talk about them losing 35-40 was a complete pipe dream, but I would have bet serious money that they would lose at least 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schultzy View Post
    NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions
    Response to University of Mississippi Appeal
    University of Mississippi - Case No. 00561
    April 11, 2018
    Page No.6
    panel issued its infractions decision on December 1, 2017, and the institution filed a timely
    appeal.
    Factual Statement
    The violations that led to this case began in the spring and summer of 2010. Two
    football staff members orchestrated a scheme to attain fraudulent standardized tests scores for
    three (School redacted) prospects who had committed to play football at Mississippi but had not yet
    achieved qualifying standardized tests scores. The two football staff members directed the
    prospects to re-take their standardized tests at a Mississippi location hundreds of miles from their
    homes and to leave blank the answers to questions they did not know. The staff members knew
    the test supervisor at the location. The test scores for all three prospects increased dramatically.
    Two of the three did not complete their tests, but their answer sheets were later found to be filled
    in completely. One of the prospects' answer sheets contained multiple erasures and changed
    answers? FI6.
    David Saunders, who now has an 8-year show cause, was the frontrunner for this academic fraud in 2010. Saunders just happened to be Cutcliffe's recruiting coordinator for four years (1998-2002) and was also a coach at OM under Orgeron and Freeze in 2006. Saunders alleged accomplice in the ACT fraud was Ginny Crager, who coincidentally was instrumental in getting Jerrell Powe eligible around 2006. So did Saunders just decide to start cheating on his third go-around with OM in 2010? Or had he been cheating for them each time? And OM's rebuttal wonders how the NCAA could use OM's probations in 1985 and 1994 to accuse them of establishing a (cheating) culture that 'existed at Mississippi literally for decades'.
    Last edited by MedDawg; 05-04-2018 at 09:30 AM.

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