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From ESPN. Nutt was a nut.
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That's a fascinating article.
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Reminds me when we played at Auburn and they supposedly started listening in on our headsets. It was the game we lost on Relf at the goal line but we were completely dominated the first half and then kicked their ass when Mullen started calling plays from the sideline without the headset. Doesn't take much common sense to figure out how we improved our offense.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Reminds me when we played at Auburn and they supposedly started listening in on our headsets. It was the game we lost on Relf at the goal line but we were completely dominated the first half and then kicked their ass when Mullen started calling plays from the sideline without the headset. Doesn't take much common sense to figure out how we improved our offense.
Mullen publicly denied the rumor of listening in. However, I spoke to a former player about that rumor a couple of years ago. It's true. Mullen was a pissed off sob at halftime.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Mullen publicly denied the rumor of listening in. However, I spoke to a former player about that rumor a couple of years ago. It's true. Mullen was a pissed off sob at halftime.
What was the story behind that, about how they found out during the game?
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Charlie Pell at florida was sanctioned by the NCAA in the 80's for tapping the opposing teams headset communications.
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Originally Posted by
BossDawg
What was the story behind that, about how they found out during the game?
From what he told me Mullen told Relf the play without headphones on and then with headphones on told the coaches the play he told Relf, which was a ruse. If I'm not mistaken it's the play late in the 2nd quarter where Relf ran right while everybody and their momma in an AU jersey went left. Relf got like 25 yards on the run. Mullen threw his headset down after that.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
From what he told me Mullen told Relf the play without headphones on and then with headphones on told the coaches the play he told Relf, which was a ruse. If I'm not mistaken it's the play late in the 2nd quarter where Relf ran right while everybody and their momma in an AU jersey went left. Relf got like 25 yards on the run. Mullen threw his headset down after that.
So is this one of those cases where we know they did but can't prove it?
Or was it squashed by SEC office?
THEY OUGHT TO HAVE TO FORFEIT THE GAME. SCREW SANCTIONING SOMETHING LIKE. PUT AN OFFICIAL L IN THAT COLUMN AND SEE HOW CHEATERS LIKE THEM APPLES.
The Liberation will not be televised--- when it arrives like lightning in the skies!
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Originally Posted by
BulldogBear
So is this one of those cases where we know they did but can't prove it?
Or was it squashed by SEC office?
THEY OUGHT TO HAVE TO FORFEIT THE GAME. SCREW SANCTIONING SOMETHING LIKE. PUT AN OFFICIAL L IN THAT COLUMN AND SEE HOW CHEATERS LIKE THEM APPLES.
I think the SEC (Slive) told Mullen to stifle it. He swallowed his pride and let it go. Remember, Slive was still ticked at Mullen for the whole Cam thing.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
From what he told me Mullen told Relf the play without headphones on and then with headphones on told the coaches the play he told Relf, which was a ruse. If I'm not mistaken it's the play late in the 2nd quarter where Relf ran right while everybody and their momma in an AU jersey went left. Relf got like 25 yards on the run. Mullen threw his headset down after that.
Even if true, something had to arouse the suspicion first to even try that out. He must have been seeing defensive players all mysteriously going to the correct area of the field or something.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Even if true, something had to arouse the suspicion first to even try that out. He must have been seeing defensive players all mysteriously going to the correct area of the field or something.
It was a defensive player calling out the offensive play. Either one of the coaches or players had a big time and specific tell, or they were listening in. But I'm sure Ole Miss people wondered if TCU was listening to their headsets in the peach bowl, but then it turns out their formations, motions, and splits just telegraphed that much info about the play calling.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
From what he told me Mullen told Relf the play without headphones on and then with headphones on told the coaches the play he told Relf, which was a ruse. If I'm not mistaken it's the play late in the 2nd quarter where Relf ran right while everybody and their momma in an AU jersey went left. Relf got like 25 yards on the run. Mullen threw his headset down after that.
If that's true, we could have run away from their ass by doing that for every play for the rest of the game. Don't know why we didn't.
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Form what I remember is Mullen caught some back ground chatter form AU coaches form his headset.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Reminds me when we played at Auburn and they supposedly started listening in on our headsets. It was the game we lost on Relf at the goal line but we were completely dominated the first half and then kicked their ass when Mullen started calling plays from the sideline without the headset. Doesn't take much common sense to figure out how we improved our offense.
Man, Relf came introduced his own during the Egg Bowl and then again against Michigan! Such high hopes for him the next year and that hit at the goal line!! Never was the same after that. Sad, could've/should've been a great year...
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Reminds me when we played at Auburn and they supposedly started listening in on our headsets.
There was also this shit....
I still remember seeing our defensive guys jumping up and down knowing they had stopped 'em cold, just to see the refs signal for a 1st down. That shit sums up SEC football. Also, Nickoe was ejected on a play where he was breaking up a pass but made contact with helmet; I'm pretty sure it was before the mandatory targeting rule, so they just ****ed him because the uniform he was wearing.
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Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Such high hopes for him the next year and that hit at the goal line!! Never was the same after that.
He got absolutely smoked on that play. No way that guy should have stopped him dead like that....but that's football. The game should've never come down to that play, for multiple reasons (some our fault, and some of the "this week you're playing Auburn" bull shit variety), but that one still stings...
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I've alway wondered why teams don't take responsibility for their own headsets. I mean you wouldn't trust the other team to supply your cleats. It seems like it would be a minor technical issue to have the headsets encrypt and decrypt the signal over whatever stadiums network they are using. Then you could change the encryptions keys as often as you liked to ensure no one was listening.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
He got absolutely smoked on that play. No way that guy should have stopped him dead like that....but that's football. The game should've never come down to that play, for multiple reasons (some our fault, and some of the "this week you're playing Auburn" bull shit variety), but that one still stings...
Relf was in bad shape, health wise all that year. He gutted it out. Folks hvae no idea how tough he was that year
Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.
When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times
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Relf will always be one of my favorite bulldogs. If everyone had his drive, we would be better for it.
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Originally Posted by
BeardoMSU
There was also this shit....
I still remember seeing our defensive guys jumping up and down knowing they had stopped 'em cold, just to see the refs signal for a 1st down. That shit sums up SEC football. Also, Nickoe was ejected on a play where he was breaking up a pass but made contact with helmet; I'm pretty sure it was before the mandatory targeting rule, so they just ****ed him because the uniform he was wearing.
That still burns my ass like bad Mexican food.
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