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    Is there a breaking point with all the lawsuits?

    Seems like a new one is filed every other day. When does someone high up in the judicial system of Mississippi says enough is enough? There are probably some real law suits out there that is going to get bogged down.

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    I bet a dollar to a donut Whenever Freezes time has expired he gets a "One Call That's All" and sues somebody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Seems like a new one is filed every other day. When does someone high up in the judicial system of Mississippi says enough is enough? There are probably some real law suits out there that is going to get bogged down.
    When the system is this corrupt in your favor, you play it until it's completely broken. They took the time to build it, so they have to rely on it to save them. They are going to fight until the end and will take down whatever they need to in order to save themselves.

    This reminds me so much of House of Cards.

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    When trying to deal with the NCAA, lawsuits could very well be a good thing. When supported corrupted actions get run amuck, like at OM, there may be no recourse but lawsuits. Lawsuits take the subject matter from potential abuse of discretion or misconduct of decision makers into law full proceedings. During an NCAA proceeding, individuals can play games being the NCAA itself or the ones being sanctioned by the NCAA itself.

    I would like to inspire fellow Elite Doggers to remember what is evolving on the West Coast with the Todd McNair lawsuit against the NCAA. Time is getting short for the NCAA because it can no longer stall litigation. Every member who signed off on the USC sanctions is at risk of having their questionable decision justified on the stand being questioned by McNair's legal team. If they lie, they go to jail; If they tell the truth, they supply testimony for McNair to personally sue them after he prevails against the NCAA.

    The pressures exerted on the West Coast show what a lawsuit can do to free up the truth. A good lawsuit in Mississippi could be just what the doctor ordered to cure the disease we all know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachnorm View Post
    When trying to deal with the NCAA, lawsuits could very well be a good thing. When supported corrupted actions get run amuck, like at OM, there may be no recourse but lawsuits. Lawsuits take the subject matter from potential abuse of discretion or misconduct of decision makers into law full proceedings. During an NCAA proceeding, individuals can play games being the NCAA itself or the ones being sanctioned by the NCAA itself.

    I would like to inspire fellow Elite Doggers to remember what is evolving on the West Coast with the Todd McNair lawsuit against the NCAA. Time is getting short for the NCAA because it can no longer stall litigation. Every member who signed off on the USC sanctions is at risk of having their questionable decision justified on the stand being questioned by McNair's legal team. If they lie, they go to jail; If they tell the truth, they supply testimony for McNair to personally sue them after he prevails against the NCAA.

    The pressures exerted on the West Coast show what a lawsuit can do to free up the truth. A good lawsuit in Mississippi could be just what the doctor ordered to cure the disease we all know about.
    Is that the one Chris Speilman is involved with or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachnorm View Post
    When trying to deal with the NCAA, lawsuits could very well be a good thing. When supported corrupted actions get run amuck, like at OM, there may be no recourse but lawsuits. Lawsuits take the subject matter from potential abuse of discretion or misconduct of decision makers into law full proceedings. During an NCAA proceeding, individuals can play games being the NCAA itself or the ones being sanctioned by the NCAA itself.

    I would like to inspire fellow Elite Doggers to remember what is evolving on the West Coast with the Todd McNair lawsuit against the NCAA. Time is getting short for the NCAA because it can no longer stall litigation. Every member who signed off on the USC sanctions is at risk of having their questionable decision justified on the stand being questioned by McNair's legal team. If they lie, they go to jail; If they tell the truth, they supply testimony for McNair to personally sue them after he prevails against the NCAA.

    The pressures exerted on the West Coast show what a lawsuit can do to free up the truth. A good lawsuit in Mississippi could be just what the doctor ordered to cure the disease we all know about.
    The NCAA is a body of volunteer associations. They are not required to be a members of the NCAA. They agree to follow NCAA rules. The universities have to abide by association rules or they face association punishments.

    Boosters do not belong the NCAA. They have not volunteered to be part of NCAA or to follow its rules. In fact, it could be easily argued that the NCAA violates basic first amendment rights of boosters.

    So in short, yeah a booster might sue the NCAA and win. But a university won't. They can leave or they can follow the rules. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Seems like a new one is filed every other day. When does someone high up in the judicial system of Mississippi says enough is enough? There are probably some real law suits out there that is going to get bogged down.
    Not in Mississippi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    Is that the one Chris Speilman is involved with or something else?
    Chris Speilman is not involved. It is simply a defamation suit by Todd McNair against the NCAA for the Show Cause executed against him in the Reggie Bush perceived issue. Strangely, USC has served the sanctions and it is finished with the Reggie Bush saga. Also, strangely when the Court ordered the NCAA to open up its mainframe to McNair's legal team, the real truth in email form, proved USC innocent after the fact? The NCAA is far from finished with the Reggie Bush saga thanks to Todd McNair, their pain is forthcoming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    Is that the one Chris Speilman is involved with or something else?
    I don't know anything about Chris Speilman being part of that case or not. What Norm is alluding to is NCAA evidence vs. Court of Law evidence.

    Remember, the NCAA doesn't need 'beyond shadow of a doubt' to make a ruling. Ask Sidney about his parent's financial statements. With the NCAA and their rulings on penalties, it's what they think happened instead of what they can prove. With Todd McNair, he hired a good lawyer who was able to get into the emails of the investigators which led to the uncovering of numerous back and forth emails stating things such as "I don't have any evidence but I KNOW he's guilty." "Yeah, he's dirty let's get him."....etc.... Now, he's going to have them,the NCAA investigators (including Zena's old squeeze Johanningmeier, prove in a court of law, where evidence has to be beyond a reasonable doubt, that he's dirty and deserved the show-cause when their own emails state the opposite as far as court of law evidence is concerned. To hand out their penalties, the NCAA can say "1+1+?=3 and we know that the ?=1 even though we can't prove it so you're going to get hammered". In a court, they have to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt that ?=1 for it to stick.

    The moral of the story is be careful with emails and written notes. Remember, it was the release of Johanningmeier's notes after a lawsuit that got the Gump's all up in arms over fat Phil when it was discovered that Johanningmeier had scribbled a note up top that said "Do not investigate Tennessee in exchange for information from Phil Fulmer".

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