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Not bashing on Saban or Bama but.......
He has been there for 10 years or so. This year he had 15 five stars and 37 four stars on roster. Over the years he has signed all the four stars and five stars recruits that he wanted out of high school. You have to ask, "Why is he signing JUCO's?" I understand state and ole miss having to sign JUCO's to fill depth but for the life of me why does Bama waste a scholarship on guys who will at most only be there two years?
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Nothing wrong with bashing Saban. While we need to learn from him ... more bashing may be needed ****
He be processing guys and a lot of his undergrads go pro too. He refills some with more experienced players and plugs them right in.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Nothing wrong with bashing Saban. While we need to learn from him ... more bashing may be needed ****
He be processing guys and a lot of his undergrads go pro too. He refills some with more experienced players and plugs them right in.
That's what schools like MSU and Ole Miss have to do but hell he had 15 five stars and 37 four stars. Surely he already has the depth on roster to replace guys leaving early.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Nothing wrong with bashing Saban. While we need to learn from him ... more bashing may be needed ****
He be processing guys and a lot of his undergrads go pro too. He refills some with more experienced players and plugs them right in.
Bingo!
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Some of those 5 & 4* guys on roster are on the 3 - 4 deep and don't always pan out ... or he and his staff don't think they will. So he'll get them out of there. Then he's losing a bunch to the draft this year I believe, especially on D. He loves Juco guys for D linemen and goes Juco for them quite often.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
That's what schools like MSU and Ole Miss have to do but hell he had 15 five stars and 37 four stars. Surely he already has the depth on roster to replace guys leaving early.
That's why they are the best at winning.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Some of those 5 & 4* guys on roster are on the 3 - 4 deep and don't always pan out ... or he and his staff don't think they will. So he'll get them out of there. Then he's losing a bunch to the draft this year I believe, especially on D. He loves Juco guys for D linemen and goes Juco for them quite often.
Exactly, look no further than our very on roster and a 5* we once had, No further information should be needed.
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**** that guy. He can go straight to hell.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
He has been there for 10 years or so. This year he had 15 five stars and 37 four stars on roster. Over the years he has signed all the four stars and five stars recruits that he wanted out of high school. You have to ask, "Why is he signing JUCO's?" I understand state and ole miss having to sign JUCO's to fill depth but for the life of me why does Bama waste a scholarship on guys who will at most only be there two years?
I was wondering the same thing when someone posted that Bama had one of our targets in limbo.
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Saban literally looks at who gives him the best chance to win Right Now. He will take those 5 & 4 star guys for depth but you better believe those guys are on the bench if a guy from Juco is an upgrade. Probably why he won't go back to the NFL. He likes having an advantage over pretty much everyone he plays. He also gets pissed if someone doesn't buy into the system of playing on special teams with the chance to play if someone gets hurt. Anyone want to transfer out to start somewhere and he gets mad that his depth and advantage takes a hit.
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They are getting back to the old days before the scholly limit in that they are signing guys just to keep them away from the competition as much as they are for need on their own part. You can do that when you get most everyone you target.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
They are getting back to the old days before the scholly limit in that they are signing guys just to keep them away from the competition as much as they are for need on their own part. You can do that when you get most everyone you target.
Like Bear did. I'm sorta leaning to that line of thinking some too. Saban, Meyer, and maybe Harbaugh can probably do that to a decent extent. Then just process them out after a year or 2.
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Bash on them all you want. They have been doing this for years. They take players that other schools need desperately and leave them on the bench just so said school can't use the athlete against them on the field.
It's the nature of the game, and Saban has had few qualms using this technique.
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Originally Posted by
mstatefan91
Bash on them all you want. They have been doing this for years. They take players that other schools need desperately and leave them on the bench just so said school can't use the athlete against them on the field.
It's the nature of the game, and Saban has had few qualms using this technique.
Lol. No.
Has nothing to do with taking a player from someone else. No one, including Saban and Alabama, can afford to recruit anyone they don't intend on playing. Not with the 85 rule.
He adds Juco players when he needs experienced depth at a position. He NEVER takes a Juco he doesn't feel will not play immediately.
Last edited by Token Bammer; 12-14-2016 at 07:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Token Bammer
Lol. No.
Has nothing to do with taking a player from someone else. No one, including Saban and Alabama, can afford to recruit anyone they don't intend on playing. Not with the 85 rule.
He adds Juco players when he needs experienced depth at a position. He NEVER takes a Juco he doesn't feel will not play immediately.
Correct. He doesn't blow a skolly to hamstring anyone... He just wants to be better...
Additionally, with the high turnover, JUCOs make a seamless transition when they rock...
4 of the top 5 2017 JUCOs are either going to, or coming from Bammer....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
They are getting back to the old days before the scholly limit in that they are signing guys just to keep them away from the competition as much as they are for need on their own part. You can do that when you get most everyone you target.
Yep, back to the Vaught and Bear days signing players, just to keep them from playing against them. How many players from Mississippi has Nick signed and made it to their first team? He signs them and processes them and ruins them. He's very smart and he's dealing with high school kids, who see the glory and not the reality!
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Originally Posted by
Token Bammer
Lol. No.
Has nothing to do with taking a player from someone else. No one, including Saban and Alabama, can afford to recruit anyone they don't intend on playing. Not with the 85 rule.
He adds Juco players when he needs experienced depth at a position. He NEVER takes a Juco he doesn't feel will not play immediately.
Bullshit!
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Yep, back to the Vaught and Bear days signing players, just to keep them from playing against them. How many players from Mississippi has Nick signed and made it to their first team? He signs them and processes them and ruins them. He's very smart and he's dealing with high school kids, who see the glory and not the reality!
I'd like to know the numbers, as well... what are they?
and the days of Bryant/Vaught signings are completely incomparable to today....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Bullshit!
No.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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