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    Quote Originally Posted by Taog Redloh View Post
    ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

    Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is. And yeah, there comes a point when the rich simply have too much. But they will always find a way to exploit.

    This isn't an 'across the board' thing. It's a Saban thing.
    Remember when the NFL implemented revenue sharing I believe. It was to improve the competition so the product would be better for the fans. It seems to have worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Remember when the NFL implemented revenue sharing I believe. It was to improve the competition so the product would be better for the fans. It seems to have worked.
    doesn't the SEC do that now?
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    doesn't the SEC do that now?
    Well yea I guess they sorta do. However, there is still a large disparity in operating budgets. And there isn't currently anything in place to control boosters or additional supplemental revenue. I was thinking more in terms of other ways to even it out though. The NFL has also continued to implement additional policies to even things out and put a better product on the field. On any given weekend any team can beat another one. I was primarily responding to the Hillary Clinton comment by Taog and trying to make the point that this isn't necessarily a pure capitalism vs. socialism thing. There was a lot of resistance to revenue sharing in NFL when it was first proposed.

    I personally haven't thought too deeply on possible solutions and probably couldn't come up with any realistic ones if I did. Most of us on this board are pretty butt hurt right now with our team haha.

    ETA: What I think this really comes down to is the players aren't allowed to share in the revenue ... so they go to the highest discrete (except in OMs case) bidder. If this were more capitalistic, the players would be receiving far more than they are. In the NFL, the QB makes more than the HC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Alabama has had 6 #1 one recruiting classes in a row.

    That means that the best team in college football is monopolizing the 1st round draft picks of every high school football draft
    They should just go play in the NFC East

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    There was a good start at this when they put the scholarship limitation in place to stop Bear Bryant from giving players scholarships just so other schools wouldn't get them. They might not have gone far enough. Only 11 players are on the field at any one time, 22 total when you count the defense. I don't see why you couldn't field a team with 65 scholarships ... you'd still have 43 "reserves". And while you're at it, cut out redshirting too (except possibly medical). 4 year contracts would essentially take care of that.
    Nfl plays with 53, but they can add from practice squad as needed. I do think 65 is sufficient though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Folks, this is terrible TV ......
    Yes they have and yes it is. It doesn't help that they are playing an SEC East team either. SEC East football 2010-present < SEC West basketball 2000's.

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    The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.

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    Acid mouth, that pic is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid mouth View Post
    The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.
    if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

    While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

    No.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

    While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...
    Honestly tusk, I like you and normally don't mind you being here but GTFO ASAP please! Sick of the bama bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxdog View Post
    Honestly tusk, I like you and normally don't mind you being here but GTFO ASAP please! Sick of the bama bullshit.
    sorry you feel that way, buddy.

    I just respond to Bammer stuff (mostly) brought up by otheres... and I almost never start any Bammer threads.

    Peace.
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

    While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...
    AJ got $350 K & I don't think Bama matched that. A buddy of mine that knows him well told me the other day. AJ told him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    AJ got $350 K & I don't think Bama matched that. A buddy of mine that knows him well told me the other day. AJ told him
    I heard similar story.
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid mouth View Post
    The problem is the system. With Alabama's storied past, they are allowed to recruit players with their hands out nationally and no one seems to care. Case in point: My bears friends constantly complained about this past recruiting class. They said Bama offered "life changing" money. And if a team attempts to match their offer, like the bears have done for the past few seasons, the NCAA notices. There is a pecking order in the SEC and they system in place makes it extremely difficult to alter that order. That's why Bama is the best and with or without Saban, Bama will always remain on top of the SEC. Their down years will be few and far between.
    You can go on and one as far as excuses as to why this has happened. Bottom line is, Alabama was one of the first programs to really invest in football, and it's paid dividends for them. There are tons and tons of sidewalk fans who are willing to give money to the football program, outside of their biggest donors. And there is plenty of talent in Alabama to start with. Yeah, they don't recruit only AL kids but that's what the foundation was built upon.

    Meanwhile in MS, we split our major universities, and did nothing to grow the population. Dont' blame others for success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taog Redloh View Post
    ShotgunDawg do you realize you are wanting to implement the same sort of stuff that Hillary Clinton does? I mean you straight up sound like a Black Lives Matter activist.

    Sort of eye opening when you look at it from that perspective, isn't it? Not saying I disagree with you, but it is what it is. And yeah, there comes a point when the rich simply have too much. But they will always find a way to exploit.

    This isn't an 'across the board' thing. It's a Saban thing.
    Should we take all regulation off? If you're pure capitalist, we should go no scholarship limits and no regulation on getting players (compliance).

    I'm conservative, but we're talking about a game played for entertainment. NFL, MLB, and all pro sports have ways to try and keep things competitive for a better product. I have no problem with CFB doing the same. Now if the NCAA forces teams to take a certain amount of white boys on a basketball team, then yeah, that's too much haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    sorry you feel that way, buddy.

    I just respond to Bammer stuff (mostly) brought up by otheres... and I almost never start any Bammer threads.

    Peace.
    No one hates bama football more than me, but you cool. I like you here. Just gonna have to deal with a bunch of us here that are mad at the world right now.

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    Top 10 college football matchups are supposed to be can't miss entertainment and something football fans plan their Saturdays around even if it doesn't involve their team. Bama plays #6 A&M next week and I think I'd get more entertainment watching a Lifetime movie with my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    if this was true, AJ Brown would be in Crimson....

    While no program is squeaky clean, Bammer is much cleaner than they were in the late 90s early 00s... they just don't have to match offers anymore...
    Y'all won't get every player you offer but no one bats an eye when you get a 5 star OT from Texas or 5 star WR from Ohio. If a bottom tier SEC does it, they get a 4 year NCAA colonoscopy. Now the bears also screwed up by attempting to build a powerhouse overnight as opposed to taking several seasons. That's asking for an anal probe. Let me also add that the only team I hate more than the bears is the tide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid mouth View Post
    Y'all won't get every player you offer but no one bats an eye when you get a 5 star OT from Texas or 5 star WR from Ohio. If a bottom tier SEC does it, they get a 4 year NCAA colonoscopy. Now the bears also screwed up by attempting to build a powerhouse overnight as opposed to taking several seasons. That's asking for an anal probe. Let me also add that the only team I hate more than the bears is the tide
    all of that is true... however, when a perennial 30-50 ranked recruiting team shoots to top 10, there's usually something fishy going on....

    Like you said, it needs to be gradual... and it can be done...
    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

    No.


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