All these crazy theories are funny

[lamont]

It's way more simple than that- we just aren't very talented. We aren't stockpiling talent on the bench hiding it from the world. We lack it.

We lack it in the OL
We lack it at RB
We lack it at CB
We lack it in our WR depth

We just aren't very good. That's the only real theory

[HoopsDawg]

Nodding head.

[shoeless joe]

Agree to an extent. But we do have more talent available than what we are utilizing.

[Op4isabitch]

I agree with what you said and it all comes back to one person. So my theory isn't crazy, our HC ain't getting it done.

[msstate7]

We're 0-1, so are you saying we're behind USA in depth and talent?

If we win this week, will the USA game be an anomaly?

[HoopsDawg]

We're 0-1, so are you saying we're behind USA in depth and talent?

If we win this week, will the USA game be an anomaly?

From what I saw on the field, I would say it's very close.

[msstate7]

From what I saw on the field, I would say it's very close.

So it's free money this week. You loading up?

[fishwater99]

Agree to an extent. But we do have more talent available than what we are utilizing.

A. Williams can be a serviceable SEC RB along with Dear who is playing out of position.
We have other younger players that won't see the field because Dan won't play them.
I will not argue about how crappy the OL is.

[Dawg4Life]

It's way more simple than that- we just aren't very talented. We aren't stockpiling talent on the bench hiding it from the world. We lack it.

We lack it in the OL
We lack it at RB
We lack it at CB
We lack it in our WR depth

We just aren't very good. That's the only real theory

Serious question: How does this roster and its talent compare to the 2009 or 2010 year? This is not a loaded question, I just wanted some context when assessing where we were and where we are presently.

[HoopsDawg]

So it's free money this week. You loading up?

South Carolina sucks too. And I don't enjoy betting against my team.

[HoopsDawg]

Serious question: How does this roster and its talent compare to the 2009 or 2010 year? This is not a loaded question, I just wanted some context when assessing where we were and where we are presently.

The 2009 defense had 9 starters who played in the NFL. Also an NFL RB and olinemen. Does that answer your question?

[msstate7]

South Carolina sucks too. And I don't enjoy betting against my team.

Didn't stop you in basketball haha

[HoopsDawg]

Didn't stop you in basketball haha

True. That was just free money. And I couldn't stand Rick Ray. He did screw me on the FSU game though.

[Tbonewannabe]

I find it hard to believe the RBs on the bench are worse than Shumpert.

[HancockCountyDog]

Serious question: How does this roster and its talent compare to the 2009 or 2010 year? This is not a loaded question, I just wanted some context when assessing where we were and where we are presently.

The 2010 team would be a 20 point favorite and we would cover easily.

That 2010 MSU defense will go down as one of the best in MSU history, from a talent stand point.

[Political Hack]

Yeah, Mullen inherited a great defense and a solid OL.

[msstate7]

Yeah, Mullen inherited a great defense and a solid OL.

Yeah, he did. 2014 was his baby though. I'm not happy with Mullen at all right now, but reading this board you'd think he's done nothing since croom's talent left

[Leroy Jenkins]

The 2011 Gator Bowl team scored 52 if I remember correctly. And I think Bump was out with a broken clavicle from the EB.

If you compare that team to this one offensively:

Ballard > Any RB we have seen so far,.. so far.
Holloway = Perkins
Ross > Bumphis
Gray > Heavens
Myles > Clark
Fitz has shown flashes of being better than Relf.

The difference is that 2011 team played nasty and it started up front with a "run 1st mentality".

When I say "better than" Im talking production.

[HSVDawg]

It's way more simple than that- we just aren't very talented. We aren't stockpiling talent on the bench hiding it from the world. We lack it.

We lack it in the OL
We lack it at RB
We lack it at CB
We lack it in our WR depth

We just aren't very good. That's the only real theory

You left off one notable position (QB) which is pretty much the most important position on the field, and the one that is the subject of most of the "theories." If we do have talent at QB but still put forward the abomination of a performance at that position that we saw on Saturday, then what does that say?

[SPMT]

The 2011 Gator Bowl team scored 52 if I remember correctly. And I think Bump was out with a broken clavicle from the EB.

If you compare that team to this one offensively:

Ballard > Any RB we have seen so far,.. so far.
Holloway = Perkins
Ross > Bumphis
Gray > Heavens
Myles > Clark
Fitz has shown flashes of being better than Relf.

The difference is that 2011 team played nasty and it started up front with a "run 1st mentality".

When I say "better than" Im talking production.

We were a hardass team then. Great tough, dawg mentality. That team would steamroll this team. We had only one decent receiver in Bump, but we were tough as hell.