Level I Allegations

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[JDog13]

What's that smell

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[ShotgunDawg]

Doesn't matter. The NCAA will do with Ole Miss what they choose.

It really doesn't matter.

This isn't 1+1+1 = 3. This is 1+1+X = Whatever the 17 we want

[TUSK]

Doesn't matter. The NCAA will do with Ole Miss what they choose.

It really doesn't matter.

This isn't 1+1+1 = 3. This is 1+1+X = Whatever the 17 we want

This is correct... Precedent, evidence, and proof are secondary to perceived guilt/lying and/or arrogance in the eyes of the NCAA...

That being said, after the Cam Fiasco, the bungled Miami investigation, the backtracking on the PSU sanctions, etc there is no telling which way this thing will go...

[Leroy Jenkins]

Where did Connor take the ACT?
Why did Saban back off when it looked like Connor wouldn't make the grades?
Then... Surprise he makes it.

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Where did Connor take the ACT?
Why did Saban back off when it looked like Connor wouldn't make the grades?
Then... Surprise he makes it.

Conner... "Coach I dont want to go to Ole Miss, but I have too" ....
Take that how ever you want too.

[Jack Lambert]

I think it's when they get caught that determines if it's the new matrix not when the rules that are broken takes place.

[Really Clark?]

• Conduct breaches that occurred before Oct. 30, 2012, and are processed before Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to the current process and penalties.

• Conduct breaches that occurred before Oct. 30, 2012, but are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, would be subject to the new process but would incur the more lenient of the two penalty structures (current and revised).

• Conduct breaches that occurred during a span that includes both before and after Oct. 30, 2012, and are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to new process and the revised penalties as long as most of the violations occurred after Oct. 30, 2012.

• Conduct breaches that occur after Oct. 30, 2012 and are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to both the new process and the revised penalty structure.

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[Really Clark?]

This is helpful. But is the entire investigation one giant conduct breach or 75+ unique conduct breaches? I could see it either way

Conduct breach means infraction. Each infraction is taken independently and you have 13 infractions or conduct breaches named in the NOA. Your orginal question was about the ACT fraud happening prior to the new structure. All infractions at this point are processed under the new structure (Level 1, 2, etc). It's why you see the infractions in the UNC case listed as Level 1 eventhough many of the infractions go back nearly a decade before the new system. Now the actual penalty portion will be under the new matrix UNLESS the older penalty process would have been lesser. This would only be for the ACT fraud stuff. Everything else will be under the new process and penalty matrix.

[Bubb Rubb]

Conduct breach means infraction. Each infraction is taken independently and you have 13 infractions or conduct breaches named in the NOA. Your orginal question was about the ACT fraud happening prior to the new structure. All infractions at this point are processed under the new structure (Level 1, 2, etc). It's why you see the infractions in the UNC case listed as Level 1 eventhough many of the infractions go back nearly a decade before the new system. Now the actual penalty portion will be under the new matrix UNLESS the older penalty process would have been lesser. This would only be for the ACT fraud stuff. Everything else will be under the new process and penalty matrix.

This is the key point in bold. ACT fraud is about as significant as you can get from an NCAA infraction standpoint.

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[BrunswickDawg]

• Conduct breaches that occurred before Oct. 30, 2012, and are processed before Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to the current process and penalties.

• Conduct breaches that occurred before Oct. 30, 2012, but are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, would be subject to the new process but would incur the more lenient of the two penalty structures (current and revised).

• Conduct breaches that occurred during a span that includes both before and after Oct. 30, 2012, and are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to new process and the revised penalties as long as most of the violations occurred after Oct. 30, 2012.

• Conduct breaches that occur after Oct. 30, 2012 and are processed after Aug. 1, 2013, will be subject to both the new process and the revised penalty structure.

I think this may be what could kick it up a notch with OM. If they determine that this is all part of the same pattern of systemic cheating, they could enforce the new standard for the old offenses.

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[starkvegasdawg]

Regardless of how the NCAA looks at it, this is going to be TSUN when they finally go before the COI.

[RBritt]

When is their 90 days up?

[Really Clark?]

When is their 90 days up?

It's been up. But they requested an extension and draft night has thrown an enormous monkey wrench in this process. To be honest, I don't think the NCAA ever dreamed of a process to handle a scenario like UNM. I think they wanted to finalize this NOA and keep investigating them as a repeat offender. But the length and number of violations is already getting into one of the most egregious in recent history. But Tunsil is the gift that keeps on giving.

[starkvegasdawg]

It's been up. But they requested an extension and draft night has thrown an enormous monkey wrench in this process. To be honest, I don't think the NCAA ever dreamed of a process to handle a scenario like UNM. I think they wanted to finalize this NOA and keep investigating them as a repeat offender. But the length and number of violations is already getting into one of the most egregious in recent history. But Tunsil is the gift that keeps on giving.

It's been mentioned before by multiple people so this isn't breaking news but the latest is they don't go before the COI until sometime in 2017. If they're going to do something with all this talent they have "acquired", this is the year to do it. They have this season on the house. The bookie is coming for his payment before the next season.