Great Call on Bo Bounds this morning

[ShotgunDawg]

The last call of the day was by a guy named Rob & he compared Jim Harbaugh's recruiting to Hugh Freeze's recruiting.

Here is how they lineup.

Harbaugh's 1st recruiting class 2015: Michigan finished ranked 37th by 247

Harbaugh's 2nd recruiting class 2016: Michigan finished ranked 5th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 1st recruiting class at Ole Miss: 47th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 2nd recruiting class at Ole Miss: 8th by 247

So, let's get this straight.

Hugh Freeze who, who had previously been the head coach at Arkansas State & offensive coordinator at San Jose State had a bigger jump in recruiting his 2nd year than Jim Harbaugh, who was an NFL QB, rebuilt the Stanford program into a national contender, took an NFL team to the Super Bowl as head coach, & was the AP NFL Coach of the Year in 2011. Additionally, Harbaugh is hopping around the country doing satallite camps, wearing home town jerseys, tweeting to cause controversy, & last but not least is coaching at a historical national power with the biggest stadium in college football, while Hugh Freeze coaches at a traditional doormat. Meanwhile, Freeze doesn't attend satellite camps & doesn't appear to go above & beyond to network & sell Ole Miss' program.

So that is laid out objectively & without opinion. Does this look right? Does this smell like a skunk? Is Hugh Freeze the greatest recruiter of all-time?

To Ole Miss fans, do you care about the character & integrity of your football program or do you just care about winning? Do you overlook wrong & right when it benefits you?

These are questions that all of you should consider.

[LockeDawg]

The last call of the day was by a guy named Rob & he compared Jim Harbaugh's recruiting to Hugh Freeze's recruiting.

Here is how they lineup.

Harbaugh's 1st recruiting class 2015: Michigan finished ranked 37th by 247

Harbaugh's 2nd recruiting class 2016: Michigan finished ranked 5th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 1st recruiting class at Ole Miss: 47th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 2nd recruiting class at Ole Miss: 8th by 247

So, let's get this straight.

Hugh Freeze who, who had previously been the head coach at Arkansas State & offensive coordinator at San Jose State had a bigger jump in recruiting his 2nd year than Jim Harbaugh, who was an NFL QB, rebuilt the Stanford program into a national contender, took an NFL team to the Super Bowl as head coach, & was the AP NFL Coach of the Year in 2011. Additionally, Harbaugh is hopping around the country doing satallite camps, wearing home town jerseys, tweeting to cause controversy, & last but not least is coaching at a historical national power with the biggest stadium in college football, while Hugh Freeze coaches at a traditional doormat. Meanwhile, Freeze doesn't attend satellite camps & doesn't appear to go above & beyond to network & sell Ole Miss' program.

So that is laid out objectively & without opinion. Does this look right? Does this smell like a skunk? Is Hugh Freeze the greatest recruiter of all-time?

To Ole Miss fans, do you care about the character & integrity of your football program or do you just care about winning? Do you overlook wrong & right when it benefits you?

These are questions that all of you should consider.

Jim Harbaugh has taken issue with Hugh Freeze's recruiting tactics. I wonder if Harbaugh chose to inform the NCAA?

[DeviousDawg]

Good points. It has never smelt right. Ole Miss and their boosters got so obsessed with stars that they didn't realize how obvious the cheating was. At this point the only thing that will stop it is the NCAA. It's like the meth addict that denies addiction until his last tooth falls out.

[Jarius]

Ryan Fowler, who covers Alabama, was also on and he made an excellent comment regarding Ole Miss. He said that they are like a drunk that has checked into rehab but still won't admit that they have a drinking problem.

[Dawgface]

When I questioned OM recruiting class, one of my OM drinking buddies said it was simply a 'perfect storm' that came together. Yeah right.....a perfect storm filled with money.

[missouridawg]

When I questioned OM recruiting class, one of my OM drinking buddies said it was simply a 'perfect storm' that came together. Yeah right.....a perfect storm filled with money.

A hurricane of money, girls, and spice. The Ole Miss playbook.

[msstate7]

Anyone who can look at the situation logically can see om cheated. I just wish the NOA had more of the big payments to players in it. I hope the NCAA looks at the situation and penalizes for what they proved and plus some for what they know was there and couldn't prove

[maroonmania]

To Ole Miss fans, do you care about the character & integrity of your football program or do you just care about winning? Do you overlook wrong & right when it benefits you?

These are questions that all of you should consider.

Hope those questions are rhetorical because we certainly already know the answers. Been discussed at length that there were specific reasons why Hugh Freeze was brought in when he was. Its all about pushing the envelope way beyond the breaking point to win. EVERYTIME MSU starts to become a competitive to good program the Bears lose their sh!t. Happened with Brewer's rogue recruiting when Sherrill first got to town, happened with the Private Investigators and the quid pro quo with the NCAA (even sleeping with the NCAA investigator) at the end of Sherrill to put us on probation, and then again with Mullen after the "This is Our State" campaign and proclaiming in the locker that we would never lose to them again they went totally nuts with the Network going into hyperdrive. Its about winning and even more importantly its about their self esteem to make sure they are perceived as the dominant football program in MS. ANYTIME they start losing routinely to us you can just set your watch that they are about to go off the deep end to do something about it.

[Jarius]

The new penalty structure gives the NCAA leverage to punish harder for things that they can't really prove. If they have it out for someone, 8 level 1 violations is enough to give that program whatever they want to give it based on the new penalty structure. If they feel like Ole Miss is doing much worse than they can prove, they can give them the hammer based on what they have in that NOA and nothing else.

[spiral]

I want to know who the city planner of Oxford that was apparently hired in 2011-12. He's the real om MVP. I never recall any town being the reason for so many football players wanting to attend a university. It wasn't before he got there.

I guess it's foolish to think coaches, facilities, success, NFL prospects, offensive and defensive schemes, and things like that make a difference to a recruit.

[starkvegasdawg]

The last call of the day was by a guy named Rob & he compared Jim Harbaugh's recruiting to Hugh Freeze's recruiting.

Here is how they lineup.

Harbaugh's 1st recruiting class 2015: Michigan finished ranked 37th by 247

Harbaugh's 2nd recruiting class 2016: Michigan finished ranked 5th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 1st recruiting class at Ole Miss: 47th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 2nd recruiting class at Ole Miss: 8th by 247

So, let's get this straight.

Hugh Freeze who, who had previously been the head coach at Arkansas State & offensive coordinator at San Jose State had a bigger jump in recruiting his 2nd year than Jim Harbaugh, who was an NFL QB, rebuilt the Stanford program into a national contender, took an NFL team to the Super Bowl as head coach, & was the AP NFL Coach of the Year in 2011. Additionally, Harbaugh is hopping around the country doing satallite camps, wearing home town jerseys, tweeting to cause controversy, & last but not least is coaching at a historical national power with the biggest stadium in college football, while Hugh Freeze coaches at a traditional doormat. Meanwhile, Freeze doesn't attend satellite camps & doesn't appear to go above & beyond to network & sell Ole Miss' program.

So that is laid out objectively & without opinion. Does this look right? Does this smell like a skunk? Is Hugh Freeze the greatest recruiter of all-time?

To Ole Miss fans, do you care about the character & integrity of your football program or do you just care about winning? Do you overlook wrong & right when it benefits you?

These are questions that all of you should consider.

That beautiful campus, though.***

[TrapGame]

The last call of the day was by a guy named Rob & he compared Jim Harbaugh's recruiting to Hugh Freeze's recruiting.

Here is how they lineup.

Harbaugh's 1st recruiting class 2015: Michigan finished ranked 37th by 247

Harbaugh's 2nd recruiting class 2016: Michigan finished ranked 5th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 1st recruiting class at Ole Miss: 47th by 247

Hugh Freeze's 2nd recruiting class at Ole Miss: 8th by 247

So, let's get this straight.

Hugh Freeze who, who had previously been the head coach at Arkansas State & offensive coordinator at San Jose State had a bigger jump in recruiting his 2nd year than Jim Harbaugh, who was an NFL QB, rebuilt the Stanford program into a national contender, took an NFL team to the Super Bowl as head coach, & was the AP NFL Coach of the Year in 2011. Additionally, Harbaugh is hopping around the country doing satallite camps, wearing home town jerseys, tweeting to cause controversy, & last but not least is coaching at a historical national power with the biggest stadium in college football, while Hugh Freeze coaches at a traditional doormat. Meanwhile, Freeze doesn't attend satellite camps & doesn't appear to go above & beyond to network & sell Ole Miss' program.

So that is laid out objectively & without opinion. Does this look right? Does this smell like a skunk? Is Hugh Freeze the greatest recruiter of all-time?

To Ole Miss fans, do you care about the character & integrity of your football program or do you just care about winning? Do you overlook wrong & right when it benefits you?

These are questions that all of you should consider.

Some idiot called into White's show on 105.9 two weeks ago and said that Freeze was a salesman and not a recruiter. He "sold" all these players on building a winning program at a school that had "potential". And he went on to talk about how Freeze was not cheating because he was a good man with character and integrity. He just wouldn't do something like that, he said.

[ShotgunDawg]

Some idiot called into White's show on 105.9 two weeks ago and said that Freeze was a salesman and not a recruiter. He "sold" all these players on building a winning program at a school that had "potential". And he went on to talk about how Freeze was not cheating because he was a good man with character and integrity. He just wouldn't do something like that, he said.

If this is true, then it settles it: Hugh Freeze is the absolute best recruiter of all-time. Saban is statistically, but I'd argue, if Hugh did all this above board, then what he's done is far more impressive than what Saban has done.

Is Hugh Freeze the best recruiter of all-time?

[notsofarawaydawg]

If the preacherman coach was such a good man, one of integrity and character, he would have not RUN like a little bitch when Laremy Tunsil told millions that he had received money from COACHES. He would have stood there and been totally honest about the whole thing. God doesn't like liars. Yet he tucks his tail and runs like the little bitch he is. He would have turned to the God he claims to follow every minute of the day and faced the world like a real man of God. He's now seen as the biggest hypocrite in the college coaching ranks and continues to try and convince people he knows nothing about what is going on in HIS football program. The ignorance is just unbelievable when it comes to an SEC coach making a claim like that. Even more ignorant are the Rebear faithful who know their asses are about to be handed to them yet they still think this man sits at the right hand of God and he would never lie to anyone.

[breazy]

Some idiot called into White's show on 105.9 two weeks ago and said that Freeze was a salesman and not a recruiter. He "sold" all these players on building a winning program at a school that had "potential". And he went on to talk about how Freeze was not cheating because he was a good man with character and integrity. He just wouldn't do something like that, he said.

I've seen and heard this bolded part from quite a few of their fans. Problem is, They most likely don't actually know the man. They know what he purports himself to be, what his appearance he's crafted him to look like, but outside of his family and actual real life friends, anyone claiming this is saying what they hope/believe. This is exacerbated by them taking what they "believe" and screaming from the rooftop as if it is fact. The same goes for all coaches/public persons, You only know what they show you. At least until the skeletons start crawling out of the closet ala Jo-Pa, Petrino, etc.

[Out of Bounds]

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[Johnson85]

When I questioned OM recruiting class, one of my OM drinking buddies said it was simply a 'perfect storm' that came together. Yeah right.....a perfect storm filled with money.

It was a perfect storm as far as having a preexisting connection with NKemdichee. If he hadn't gotten on board first, they likely would have spent a shit ton of money for a class that finished between 10th and 15th in the recruiting rankings.

[TopDog58]

I've seen and heard this bolded part from quite a few of their fans. Problem is, They most likely don't actually know the man. They know what he purports himself to be, what his appearance he's crafted him to look like, but outside of his family and actual real life friends, anyone claiming this is saying what they hope/believe. This is exacerbated by them taking what they "believe" and screaming from the rooftop as if it is fact. The same goes for all coaches/public persons, You only know what they show you. At least until the skeletons start crawling out of the closet ala Jo-Pa, Petrino, etc.

Ole Miss fans have always had a bad habit of deifying their coaches. How many times did we hear "fine Christian man" about Cutcliffe. He was nearly an apostle until their fan base turned on him just like they do with every coach they sour on

[HoopsDawg]

I hope they get hammered. BUT, if they don't, can we all agree to stop talking about this BS forever?

[benbow]

Nope!