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Here is how I think they will spin it
They have already leaked the money was from a legit source and legal.....(we all know it wasn't)
Have Tunsil officially say he was confused ...(we know he wasn't, but you can't prove it)
Say the text are from 3 weeks ago. They haven't had time to submit the paperwork to the SEC....the NCAA says "that isn't what the Fund is for".....Ole miss says...." Oh we misunderstood the rule. Don't worry Tunsil will pay the $305 back"
Now Mr. NCAA prove we are lying......unless they can force Mama Tunsil to turn over her water bill (which I can't see how they can) this seems like a decent way to approach it.
I am sure though I am missing something and you good folks will point that out
Last edited by deadheaddawg; 04-30-2016 at 01:35 AM.
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You gotta remember, the NCAA doesn't have to prove anything, only what they believe.
And if they believe he took money from coaches/staff, we'll...
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With something like this, the school will be presumed guilty. They will have to prove it. The silence is proof that it isn't just some misunderstanding. If it was they would have came out yesterday.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
With something like this, the school will be presumed guilty. They will have to prove it. The silence is proof that it isn't just some misunderstanding. If it was they would have came out yesterday.
Yeah, pretty sure the NCAA will request phone records for the 2 coaches. If om doesn't turn them over, om will be presumed guilty
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Exactly. This isn't court of law. Remember Sidney? They can ask for his mom's bank records.
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The texts show dates in 2015. Think they're much more likely to try to say the messages were fake. I hope they do and then hope the ncaa is able to prove they're real. Lying in investigations usually raises the punishment. That and the massive media attention might be enough to actually make them hand out epic sanctions.
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Originally Posted by
cubswillwinitonedaydawg
The texts show dates in 2015. Think they're much more likely to try to say the messages were fake. I hope they do and then hope the ncaa is able to prove they're real. Lying in investigations usually raises the punishment. That and the massive media attention might be enough to actually make them hand out epic sanctions.
Only problem is Tunsil said they were real. If they were going to say he made a mistake and didn't know what they were talking about he would have cleared that up in his press conference.
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How long does it take to basically ask three people? Even shorter if you already know the answer.
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Another piece haven't seen mentioned much is the fact the texts imply he'd been receiving monthly payments, pre agreed upon sum, and surprise amounts. The texts literally expose the systemic institutionalized cheating. Way bigger than just 1 coach/AD paying 1 player $305 just one time.
Everyone was waiting Thursday night for Tunsil to put a clarifying statement... Nothing.
Waiting Friday am for clarifying statement... Nothing
Dolphins press conf waiting for clarification.... Nothing
Awaiting Oportutnity fund paperwork.... Nothing
Last edited by Coldsleeve Jr.; 04-30-2016 at 08:02 AM.
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Originally Posted by
shannondawg
How long does it take to basically ask three people? Even shorter if you already know the answer.
Hugh Freeze could have stopped everything by the time Treadwell was picked. It wasn't like he couldn't call Miller and find out what money it was referring to. Freeze would have been interviewed again if he hadn't tucked tail and ran.
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Originally Posted by
Coldsleeve Jr.
Another piece haven't seen mentioned much is the texts imply he'd been receiving monthly payments, pre agreed upon sum, and surprise amounts. The texts literally expose the systemic institutionalized cheating.
Yeah, the text laying out that he received normal payments basically makes the emergency fund lie not make sense.
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The NCAA is going to ask for phone records of those 2 people. Then they are going to ask why Tunsil is asking the coaches for money and not the compliance office that handles all that? The NCAA is going to say it appears that this player is very comfortable asking for money and has done it before.
As people have said- the MCAA doesn't have to prove anything. This is another smoking gun and huge for them.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
The NCAA is going to ask for phone records of those 2 people. Then they are going to ask why Tunsil is asking the coaches for money and not the compliance office that handles all that? The NCAA is going to say it appears that this player is very comfortable asking for money and has done it before.
As people have said- the MCAA doesn't have to prove anything. This is another smoking gun and huge for them.
Not sure if smoking gun is accurate, more like a bomb went off.
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Can we get a vCash thread with an over/under on when the Freezus-crying-like-Swaggart press conference moment is?
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I remember how they did Sidney for lying about taking a visit. Lord knows what all ole miss has lied about and are hiding. I'm going to a Bear's tonight for dinner and I can't wait to hear what they have to say about the "great Christian man" Hugh Freeze.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Yeah, pretty sure the NCAA will request phone records for the 2 coaches. If om doesn't turn them over, om will be presumed guilty
They'll happily turn over the phones assigned to those two coaches. Those messages weren't sent on their primary phone, I promise you.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Not sure if smoking gun is accurate, more like a bomb went off.
A smoking arm stub where the gun may have been held. Although it seems the gun was a grenade and somebody didn't know you were supposed to throw it.
Network indeed. They pulled the pin and got too enamored with hiw pretty it looked.
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Assistance from SAP has to be preapproved by SEC before rendered. If it had been approved it would be out for the world to see Thursday night.
"They live in bizarro world...up is down...yes is no...hot is cold. Now they've determined that the NCAA sends a Letter of Inquiry AFTER an investigation is basically over. Uh...NO. Not how it works." Zv2, Bafoom Motard , 10/12/15
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If you want to know how the NCAA will handle the Bearsharks, you need to go listen to the last 10 minutes of the Boneyard yesterday.
In it, Steve explains how he's done a ton of research on the NCAA's 2003 against MSU and was perplexed at why the sanctions weren't equivalent to the actual findings. He couldn't figure out why MSU was hammered when the NCAA only found alleged some minor things against MSU.
So, Steve went to someone on MSU's campus that was involved in that ordeal and asked him why the sanctions were worse than the allegations and the source said, "Well we were guilty of a whole lot more"
And that my friends is how the NCAA will handle the Bearsharks. What is in the NOA is what the NCAA can prove, but, when it comes to sanctions, what is in the NOA is almost irrelevant compared to what the NCAA thinks Ole Miss is guilty of.
Ole Miss is about to bend over and pick up the soap
Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 04-30-2016 at 08:49 AM.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
If you want to know how the NCAA will handle the Bearsharks, you need to go listen to the last 10 minutes of the Boneyard yesterday.
In it, Steve explains how he's done a ton of research on the NCAA's 2003 against MSU and was perplexed at why the sanctions weren't equivalent to the actual findings. He couldn't figure out why MSU was hammered when the NCAA only found alleged some minor things against MSU.
So, Steve went to someone on MSU's campus that was involved in that ordeal and asked him why the sanctions were worse than the allegations and the source said, "Well we were guilty of a whole lot more"
And that my friends is how the NCAA will handle the Bearsharks. What is in the NOA is what the NCAA can prove, but, when it comes to sanctions, what is in the NOA is almost irrelevant compared to what the NCAA thinks Ole Miss is guilty of.
Ole Miss is about to bend over and pick up the soap
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