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    ArticlE from Baseball America on schollys

    About how limited schollys create challenge for college baseball...https://twitter.com/baseballamerica/...34647100272640

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    great article Buddy- many fans have no idea how unlevel the playing field has become in college beisball
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Tremendous article... Does a pretty good job of explaining how things work. Wish it would have included a rule change timeline so people could see just how directly it correlated to our fall from grace.

    One thing I've never been clear on. Could the BDC or similar venture start a baseball scholarship endowment fund and essentially privatize extra funding for our teams? Most probably do not have the fan interest to do this -- but we certainly do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Tremendous article... Does a pretty good job of explaining how things work. Wish it would have included a rule change timeline so people could see just how directly it correlated to our fall from grace.

    One thing I've never been clear on. Could the BDC or similar venture start a baseball scholarship endowment fund and essentially privatize extra funding for our teams? Most probably do not have the fan interest to do this -- but we certainly do...
    I wondered something similar. Does any of Grishams giving to VA help players on scholly you think?

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    LSU fans are even bitching about it, watching Vandy go for another 'ship.

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    Vandy bein private & havin lots money def have the upper hand in recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Tremendous article... Does a pretty good job of explaining how things work. Wish it would have included a rule change timeline so people could see just how directly it correlated to our fall from grace.

    One thing I've never been clear on. Could the BDC or similar venture start a baseball scholarship endowment fund and essentially privatize extra funding for our teams? Most probably do not have the fan interest to do this -- but we certainly do...
    The only "legal" way to offer a scholarship is to have it "available" to everyone in the student body or everyone that applies, qualifies etc. so no you can't have a strictly baseball endowment.

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    Of course, give credit to vandy, they aren't the only school w that chance- Stanford being another, yet they have fallen from baseball grace.

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    I'm not talking about playing it down the middle. I'm talking about living in the loopholes, which I know we are already doing to a large and ever growing extent. This is part of the reason the team gpa breaks records almost every semester...

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    Vanderbilt winning big is probably the best way to get things changed in the SEC. Their advantage is even more slanted than TOPS, HOPE, etc. And like Derek Johnson said in the article, people are probably wondering how they started to win so big all of a sudden. I wouldn't be surprised at all in the coming years if the SEC makes changes to how baseball teams allot their scholarship money. And I imagine the vote will be 13-1.

    The NCAA did it to an extent with the athletic scholarship money by telling teams how they have to spend their money. The x amount of players have to be on scholarship rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    I'm not talking about playing it down the middle. I'm talking about living in the loopholes, which I know we are already doing to a large and ever growing extent. This is part of the reason the team gpa breaks records almost every semester...
    What's to stop us from giving some of the "baseball endowment" money to some random students who are deserving while giving the rest to baseball players?

    I agree with you- MSU fans and alumni need to start thinking outside the box and less within the actual rules and saying "nothing we can do."

    If we were Alabama and this was football and the situation for football scholarships was the same as it is for baseball relatively speaking, I think we all know what they would do.

    The problem is finding someone that can actually finance it- which is why I haven't done it personally because if I had the power I would do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Of course, give credit to vandy, they aren't the only school w that chance- Stanford being another, yet they have fallen from baseball grace.
    A lot of that is because their coach is past his prime. They could very easily rebuild very quickly with a different coach. I also have to wonder if USC has similar advantages as well- which gives them more competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    A lot of that is because their coach is past his prime. They could very easily rebuild very quickly with a different coach. I also have to wonder if USC has similar advantages as well- which gives them more competition.
    Stanford commitments are have signability issues with the pros. They had a highly rated guy named Tristen Beck that turned down 1st round money to go to Stanford. They simply do not recruit at the same level as Vandy even though they can. Stanford is also diverting a lot of funds to their football program as well.

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    One of the best things that can happen for us is Bama and Auburn begin caring.

    I can't speak for Bama but Jay Jacobs has started chirping a bit.

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    Basically until the state of MS gets a lottery, we will suffer somewhat. With casinos and what not I cannot believe we can't get lottery approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottH View Post
    One of the best things that can happen for us is Bama and Auburn begin caring.

    I can't speak for Bama but Jay Jacobs has started chirping a bit.
    I think Bama almost has to follow his lead now that they are investing heavily into baseball...

    My thing is -- I don't want anything "taken away" from anyone else in the SEC. Just get creative -- and create a loophole that allows everyone else to give those same advantages to themselves. With the $$ the conference is making, that should be easily enough accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbcmortgageman View Post
    Basically until the state of MS gets a lottery, we will suffer somewhat. With casinos and what not I cannot believe we can't get lottery approval.
    I think the original intent of the casino was to fund education. Just because you have the Lotto doesn't mean the money will be spent where it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbcmortgageman View Post
    Basically until the state of MS gets a lottery, we will suffer somewhat. With casinos and what not I cannot believe we can't get lottery approval.
    I could be wrong, but I think I have heard that the casinos are against a lottery. They don't want any competition and the people that are against the casinos damn sure don't want a lottery either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I think the original intent of the casino was to fund education. Just because you have the Lotto doesn't mean the money will be spent where it should be.
    All I know is that every state with a lottery always seems to end up with college assistance for any HS student in that state that has reasonably good grades. And if you've seen what college tuition is these days, this makes parents of prospective college students very happy in those states. I know as a parent of one child already through college and two more to go I'm jealous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbcmortgageman View Post
    Basically until the state of MS gets a lottery, we will suffer somewhat. With casinos and what not I cannot believe we can't get lottery approval.
    Won't happen...it "targets the poor" in the mind of many regardless on any benefit it provides.

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