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Going back to TOJ in 2 weeks.
There is a reason Ned never talked about it. How did you think he was going to off Arthur Dayne? "If not for Howland Reed"...
Last edited by engie; 05-10-2016 at 07:15 AM.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Going back to TOJ in 2 weeks.
There is a reason Ned never talked about it. How did you think he was going to off Arthur Dayne? "If not for Howland Reed"...
This is also the reason that everyone thinks R + L = J. There is no way Dayne is just standing around a tower to make sure nobody comes and gets the girl he kidnapped and raped. Ned said it himself, "Why are you here when your prince died at the Neck?". I think GRRM originally thought he had a great twist but he has taken so damn long that people eventually figured it out. Now he is trying to think of a new twist no one has thought of which is dragging the books out.
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I think he's just expanded the story to such a huge scale that he's having a very hard time bringing it all back together for a satisfactory ending.
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Originally Posted by
engie
I think he's just expanded the story to such a huge scale that he's having a very hard time bringing it all back together for a satisfactory ending.
I agree with this. I don't know how Dorne will fit into what is happening now. The show neutered the best part of that storyline by making the prince a dimwit. I guess Dany could get their support because she is a woman? The sand snakes acted like they didn't want another man to rule even though all of this came about because of revenge for Oberan. That whole part of the show is just a boring mess other than Bron flirting with one of the sand snakes.
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Speaking of, we haven't even seen him this season that I can remember.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
I agree with this. I don't know how Dorne will fit into what is happening now. The show neutered the best part of that storyline by making the prince a dimwit. I guess Dany could get their support because she is a woman? The sand snakes acted like they didn't want another man to rule even though all of this came about because of revenge for Oberan. That whole part of the show is just a boring mess other than Bron flirting with one of the sand snakes.
Originally Posted by
Uncle Ruckus
Speaking of, we haven't even seen him this season that I can remember.
Since this isn't in the books I'll discuss it. I'm sure those of you watching will confirm when and if they show that storyline again. I think the sand snake that hugged up on Bron as they were leaving gave him the antidote and Myrcella will be saved. We didn't really see her breathe her last and that almost never means the character is really dead.
The Liberation will not be televised--- when it arrives like lightning in the skies!
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That part has been resolved...
The show definitely missed the essence of the Dorne story, much like they missed the essence of Stannis in the end, Roose Bolton in the end, etc...
Roose as I know him is holed up in the dreadfort while Stannis slaughters Ramsey like a rabid dog and takes winterfell just in time for the real war to begin. "Bastard's boys are really Roose's men"....
I get the reason you quit watching this year, but IMO it's misguided. The entities have diverged too much between the books and show to even be considered the same thing. The show might spoil the ending, but it is not spoiling the essence...
Last edited by engie; 05-10-2016 at 03:54 PM.
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It has been so long now since I read the books that I probably need to reread them. If Jon is the prince that was promised then he has to get Lightbringer some where. Several shows in and no mention of the white walkers. Bran has a vision at some point where the Night's King is there so it is coming. Arya is finally done with training hopefully so maybe we get a clue what the Faceless men want and what their angle is. They have to factor into the endgame somehow.
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Road to cleganebowl starts tonight IMO.
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Best episode of the year. I am disappointed in the Umbers being traitors though. It sucks how the wildling went down. I am glad Dany's trip paid off.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Best episode of the year. I am disappointed in the Umbers being traitors though. It sucks how the wildling went down. I am glad Dany's trip paid off.
I agree. The fire scene totally reasserted the greatness of the show. Wondering about A Girl. Wish the episodes were longer, of course.
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Originally Posted by
drunkernhelldawg
I agree. The fire scene totally reasserted the greatness of the show. Wondering about A Girl. Wish the episodes were longer, of course.
I am ready to see how Arya factors in to the grand scheme of things. Dany now has her army so I bet she is about to break all the chains, not sure if the masters are going to get 7 years. The Red Priestess said she saw Jon at Winterfell so it looks like the Wildlings and the Vale and probably the Manderlays go against the Boltons, Karstarks, and the pos Umbers.
I am looking forward to Bran's next vision since it looks like he gets insight into the white walkers. This season is getting good.
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Ep 9 or ep 10 on Arya....
The Chekhov gun is gonna go off
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