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  1. 03-07-2015, 07:24 PM #1
    TheDogFather
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    So next year,

    What should our expectations be for mens' basketball?
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  2. 03-07-2015, 07:30 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDogFather View Post
    What should our expectations be for mens' basketball?
    Minimum expectation is NIT, though I won't be satisfied unless we're at least in the NCAA discussion.
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  3. 03-07-2015, 07:33 PM #3
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    Post season at a minimum
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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  4. 03-07-2015, 07:37 PM #4
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    At least nit, close the deal on his best recruiting class so far, and see development in Houston, black, and ndoye.
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    post season? is that really it?

    NCAA bubble at worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    post season? is that really it?

    NCAA bubble at worst.
    Minimum...as in, if not, Ray should absolutely be gone.

    If we make the NIT and do the other things msstate7 indicated, maybe not.
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    I cant see us firing him after next season if he makes the NIT. He has no off the court issues and recruiting is getting better. I may be wrong- but as usual- I doubt it.
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  8. 03-07-2015, 07:42 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I cant see us firing him after next season if he makes the NIT. He has no off the court issues and recruiting is getting better. I may be wrong- but as usual- I doubt it.
    Nit = 1-2 year extension
    Ncaa = 3-4 year extension
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  9. 03-07-2015, 07:59 PM #9
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    I would be happy with the NIT right now personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Post season at a minimum
    Agreed, but its going to take tremendous improvement over this year just to sniff the NIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Agreed, but its going to take tremendous improvement over this year just to sniff the NIT.
    It really wont.

    If IJ and Sword had been healthy- we'd be 16-14 right now this year. Having no bench has cost us 4-5 games easy. There is absolutely no reason we shouldnt be an NIT team at worst next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    It really wont.

    If IJ and Sword had been healthy- we'd be 16-14 right now this year. Having no bench has cost us 4-5 games easy. There is absolutely no reason we shouldnt be an NIT team at worst next year.
    You are really being simplistic about this. IJ and Sword are healthy NOW and we still aren't very good. We can't make shots. Our only hope for next year is that Q and Tookie provide us some instant perimeter shooting or we will still be around a .500 record. Since we aren't going to get Malik we REALLY needed a JUCO scorer like OM got with Moody as a transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    You are really being simplistic about this. IJ and Sword are healthy NOW and we still aren't very good. We can't make shots. Our only hope for next year is that Q and Tookie provide us some instant perimeter shooting or we will still be around a .500 record. Since we aren't going to get Malik we REALLY needed a JUCO scorer like OM got with Moody as a transfer.
    But had they been healthy ALL YEAR- we wouldnt have lost those games in December- giving us a 16-14 record right now- 17-14 after beating Mizzou

    Our lack of a bench with Bloodman and Endo- plus Houston and Black being green has cost us quite a few games. We have lost quite a few games by 6 points or less. A better bench bridges that 6 point gap.

    This shit aint hard to see if you look objectively. We play good D- but are offensively limited with no decent bench. The bench will improve next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    But had they been healthy ALL YEAR- we wouldnt have lost those games in December- giving us a 16-14 record right now.

    Our lack of a bench with Bloodman and Endo- plus Houston and Black being green has cost us quite a few games. We have lost quite a few games by 6 points or less. A better bench bridges that 6 point gap.

    This shit aint hard to see if you look objectively. We play good D- but are offensively limited with no decent bench. The bench will improve next season.
    For some reason, I'm pretty sure we'll be having this debate again next season when we have 10+ SEC losses.
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    Well. We fired our previous coach for making the NIt, so I'd say we should expect the NCAAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CottonDog View Post
    Well. We fired our previous coach for making the NIt, so I'd say we should expect the NCAAs.
    No, we did not. Please let's not let this fallacy turn this into another shit show of a thread.
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  17. 03-07-2015, 08:28 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    For some reason, I'm pretty sure we'll be having this debate again next season when we have 10+ SEC losses.
    and if we are- the decision to fire his ass will be easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CottonDog View Post
    Well. We fired our previous coach for making the NIt, .
    thats not even close to the truth
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Nit = 1-2 year extension
    Ncaa = 3-4 year extension
    You can really hamper yourself in recruiting if you give a coach a non max extension. Setting him up to fail, essentially.
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  20. 03-07-2015, 08:39 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    thats not even close to the truth
    I want you to say that had he gone to the NCAAT his last year we still would have forced him out. Say that. Please.
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