Here are the stats that tell it all for our basketball team...

[mcdawg]

Looking at the final box score of our game tonight (I admit to not watching the game - not going to waist my time):

1) Keep seeing posts that our team plays good defense and "plays hard":
*Vandy shot 55% overall and 47% 3-pointers (don't play defense well)
*Got out rebounded by 8 (don't "play hard")

2) Our existing coaching staff just cannot evaluate/recruit/develop or coach offense:
*43 of the 56 points came from players recruited by the previous staff
*56 points and way more turnovers than assists (cannot coach offense)
*Daniel, Black, Houston, Ndoye, and Bloodman (their recruits) played 62 minutes and had 5 points/4 rebounds!

The very last statement tells it all. Ray has got to go - he cannot recruit, develop, or coach offense well enough to stay - or we are done in basketball. Talked to an ex-MSU athlete today who is a big State supporter, and he said he is not going to buy any more basketball tickets until Ray is gone.

[fishwater99]

Houston had 4pts and 3 boards.
He is not the problem.

[smootness]

Ready and Houston are the two biggest recruits Ray has brought in so far. Ready is developing into a very good PG, and Houston looks very promising as well.

The 2015 class has two more guys at least on this level, and the 2016 class already has at least 2 guys on that level.

[mic]

I stopped reading at didnt watch the game...

[codeDawg]

Ready and Houston are the two biggest recruits Ray has brought in so far. Ready is developing into a very good PG, and Houston looks very promising as well.

The 2015 class has two more guys at least on this level, and the 2016 class already has at least 2 guys on that level.

That year 5 NIT run in 2017 is going to be AWESOME!**

[TheDogFather]

Ready is developing into a very good PG, and Houston looks very promising as well.

Based off of what? That they are the best at their position on our team?

[Dawgface]

That year 5 NIT run in 2017 is going to be AWESOME!**

Beer and old movies in the meantime.

[msstate7]

Based off of what? That they are the best at their position on our team?

Do you watch the games? Houston is an absolute freak athletically. If you can't see the potential there, you've blinded yourself with hate

[CottonDog]

Ready is average at best. Houston will make improvements in the off season if he works

[msugolf]

Do you watch the games? Houston is an absolute freak athletically. If you can't see the potential there, you've blinded yourself with hate

"People always say he can run and he can jump. So can a deer and you wouldn't put a deer in the game." - Charles Barkley

[msstate7]

"People always say he can run and he can jump. So can a deer and you wouldn't put a deer in the game." - Charles Barkley

So I suppose you think we should cut houston?

[TheDogFather]

Do you watch the games? Houston is an absolute freak athletically. If you can't see the potential there, you've blinded yourself with hate

I watch the games in person, how about you? Season ticket holder for more than 25 years, and I go to all the games I can, including the pathetic last three years. So get off you high horse and quit making stupid comments based off the fact that I'm not happy with the shit show Ray has displayed for three years.

And you didn't answer the question. What are you basing your opinion on? It's a simple question.

[msstate7]

I watch the games in person, how about you? Season ticket holder for more than 25 years, and I go to all the games I can, including the pathetic last three years. So get off you high horse and quit making stupid comments based off the fact that I'm not happy with the shit show Ray has displayed for three years.

And you didn't answer the question. What are you basing your opinion on? It's a simple question.

His ability to drive to the basket and play above the rim. What do you base Houston sucking on?

[Dawg61]

In the last two games Houston has driven from the 3point line all the way to the basket four times before the defense can even react to attempt to get in his way. He has elite athleticism. He has nothing to do with why we suck.

[Tbonewannabe]

I gave Ray a pass until this year. I don't care how bad the program was when he got here. Basketball is the quickest turnaround of any sport. Other than Houston being a great athlete, our team sucks at basketball. Sword and Ware have their moments but most of our team isn't very good.

What kills me is our offense looks just like "Stands" offense that most people hated. Our inbound plays look worse and we have a pretty veteran team. I think we "should" be better next year but not good enough to even be middle of the pack.

[TheDogFather]

His ability to drive to the basket and play above the rim. What do you base Houston sucking on?

Check up. I didn't say Houston sucked.

[smootness]

Ready is average at best. Houston will make improvements in the off season if he works

I would agree that Ready is already at least an average SEC PG. He should develop into an above-average one over the next couple of years.

[tcdog70]

I would agree that Ready is already at least an average SEC PG. He should develop into an above-average one over the next couple of years.

what team in the SEC would Ready start for? What starting PG in the SEC is ready better than. Taking into consideration-offense-defense-and ability to handle the ball.

[TheDogFather]

His ability to drive to the basket and play above the rim. What do you base Houston sucking on?

You confront people head on and aggressively, but yet don't answer legitimate questions. Since you brought it up in an accusatory manner, I'm still waiting on your answer to how many games you watch in person.

[msugolf]

No I actually like Houston. HI'm and sword are the best 2 to watch IMO. I was just making a point that being a great athlete has very little to do with being a good basketball player. Houston still needs to be developed and this staff won't be able to do that, which is a travesty for Houston.