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    Big Texas booster rips Charlie Strong

    I heard Bo Bounds talking about this, so I googled it to get a link to post here:

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/texa...k-in-the-face/

    (A side note, that website looks really cool and I'll be adding it to my semi-regular reading list. It is impressive Gannett did something so right.)


    So, Red McCombs who is a billionaire Texas booster isn't happy that the boosters didn't get to hand-pick their new coach. And he is no fan of Strong. He says:

    "?I think the whole thing is a bit sideways,? McCombs said during an interview with ESPN 1250 San Antonio. ?I don?t have any doubt that Charlie is a fine coach. I think he would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.
    ?But I don?t believe [he belongs at] what should be one of the three most powerful university programs in the world right now at UT-Austin. I don?t think it adds up.?"


    Yeah, maybe a coordinator. Maybe a two time national champion DC at Florida. Maybe.

    It is nice to have wealthy boosters that support the program, but I suppose that comes at a price.

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    Texas boosters are killing Texas football right now

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    The Sheriff is Near

    It's because Charlie looks different than the booster.**

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    This is why I have no issue if Stricklin somewhat shut some of our boosters out of the basketball hiring process. Sometimes powerful boosters are really, really stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparkerfd20 View Post
    It's because Charlie looks different than the booster.**
    You can be stupid without being racist. I'd guess it's a lot more likely that the booster (a) thinks anything less than Saban, John Gruden, or one of the Harbaugh brothers wouldn't add up and (b) is pissed that he didn't have more input.

    I actually wouldn't be thrilled with the coaching choice. If you're Texas, you should be able to get a coach like Strong after he's sustained that success for a couple of more years at Louisville. They should be able to poach a proven coach, like maybe Patterson. Strong may end up being the best possible hire, but it seems like very slightly more risk than they should have to take.

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    Welcome to Texas, where no matter what you do, you end up pissing off a billionaire.

    Good problem to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    You can be stupid without being racist. I'd guess it's a lot more likely that the booster (a) thinks anything less than Saban, John Gruden, or one of the Harbaugh brothers wouldn't add up and (b) is pissed that he didn't have more input.
    Eh, I hate when people read racism into situations where there is none, but it definitely was one of my first thoughts...Charlie Strong has had success everywhere he's been, including as the long-time coordinator for national title-winning Florida and as head coach at a good program that won a BCS bowl...and a Texas booster thinks he could be a 'great position coach' and maybe a coordinator?

    I'm sorry, but that screams, 'Based on my personally-held stereotypes, this guy doesn't look competent'. Because that's the dumbest thing you can say. I'll put it this way, do you think he would have said that about someone like Gene Chizik or even Will Muschamp?

    ETA: Just checked, and the last time Strong was a position coach was 1998. There are a lot of things wrong in college sports, but definitely one of the biggest problems is that complete morons like Red McCombs have an incredible amount of influence just because they have money. I realize this is the case in a lot of ways in this country, but university presidents need to start having a little more backbone.
    Last edited by smootness; 01-08-2014 at 11:14 AM.

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    That sense of entitlement, that self-righteous arrogance, it's in Austin and it's in Oxford.

    23-3 in his last two seasons, including a sugar bowl win over then #3 BCS Florida. Yeah, he might just make a decent position coach. Or maybe he's just too dark. I'd take him as a HC in a minute.

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    I think he's absolutely correct, but his delivery was wrong. He came off looking like an arrogant racist redneck.

    But it's true that they could have gotten a better hire for Texas than Charlie Strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Holder View Post
    I think he's absolutely correct, but his delivery was wrong. He came off looking like an arrogant racist redneck.
    So you think he's correct that it's maybe, just possibly, perhaps in the realm of believability, that Strong could make a good coordinator?

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    Did you read my post? Geez, son. Tell me that you did indeed comprehend what I was conveying and that I don't have to explain this further.

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    Yeah, all that money they donate, THAT'S the problem with Texas. Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Holder View Post
    Did you read my post? Geez, son. Tell me that you did indeed comprehend what I was conveying and that I don't have to explain this further.
    Well, that was what he said. His 'delivery' was his point. So you're telling me that if I said Ty Willingham was a complete and utter moron who had no idea how to read or add 2 and 2 and wouldn't know a decent football player if it smacked him in the face and could possibly be a good RB coach for State, you would say that my assertion that Ty Willingham isn't the best possible HC for State is correct but simply my delivery was wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    I'm sorry, but that screams, 'Based on my personally-held stereotypes, this guy doesn't look competent'. Because that's the dumbest thing you can say. I'll put it this way, do you think he would have said that about someone like Gene Chizik or even Will Muschamp?
    Or it screams, "I have no idea what I'm talking about. I wouldn't have known who Chizik was when Auburn hired him. I wouldn't have known who Muschamp was when Florida hired him except that he was a DC at the school I give money to and he jumps around like an idiot where I couldn't help but notice him." The guy could be a cross burning, hood wearing Ole Miss fan for all I know. I think his comment about Strong possibly being a good coordinator gives it away. Unless he was trying to showcase exactly how racist he is, he clearly had no clue who Charlie Strong was or what he had accomplished. I think it's more likely that he doesn't follow college football outside of Texas than it is that he actually goes around trying to tell anybody that will listen how racist he is.

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    The man's point was that they could have done better. And he was right.

    All his ranting about the coordinator and them not being consulted was rich good ole boy arrogance with a hint of racism.

    There it is, in the simplest of terms for you. Of course, I have a sneaky suspicion you are not stupid and realized this already, but you are trying to be a nit-picking prick. Mission accomplished.

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    Hell, maybe ole Red saw how bad Mr. Strong struggled in his opening press conference....overwhelmed to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Holder View Post
    There it is, in the simplest of terms for you. Of course, I have a sneaky suspicion you are not stupid and realized this already, but you are trying to be a nit-picking prick. Mission accomplished.
    The heck? My point is that when you talk about someone's delivery alone, it means they were a little bit too casual, used some slang, maybe cursed, etc. It wasn't his delivery that was the problem. He thinks Strong could possibly be a good coordinator and is better suited to be a position coach. That isn't his delivery, that is his opinion, and it is dumb. Obviously implied in that is that they could have done better, but there was a lot more wrong with what he said than simply his delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    He thinks Strong could possibly be a good coordinator and is better suited to be a position coach.
    He means at Texas. Not in general. If you read the original transcripts and not the liberal media's cut-up version, it's pretty obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Holder View Post
    He means at Texas. Not in general. If you read the original transcripts and not the liberal media's cut-up version, it's pretty obvious.
    Don't care where he meant it. McCombs is and idiot.

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    Hypothetically speaking, can you imagine how it would have gone over had he been hired at OM? You know..black head coach with a white wife and all. I'm sure the whole grove scene would welcome that with open arms.**

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